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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 11/17/2009 4:52:09 PM
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Badison
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God has forgiven you. It sounds more like you haven't forgiven yourself. I hope you have a real life support group. Maybe through an ex-gay ministry, or celebrate recovery, or even just a good mens group at a local church.
I truly hope that you and your (ex?)-wife can get to a point where an agreement can be reasonably made so you can see your son before he is 18. I grew up without knowing my father and it was quite hard.
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A fool vents all his feelings, But a wise man holds them back. -Proverbs 29:11
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 11/27/2009 10:08:19 AM
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Bill521
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I agree: it is necessary to forgive yourself from your past failings. God has forgiven you if you have truly repented of your sins. Let Him work in your heart. Pray for your wife and your children. He can do anything.
Live and Learn
When it comes to learning from our mistakes, we need to keep in mind humility, purity, and instruction. When we fall, we should pray, "Lord, humble my spirit before you. Purify my sinful heart. And instruct me in Your ways so that this habit can be broken and I can experience the freedom You have made available."
Since pride is always connected with our sin, we should take every available opportunity to allow God to rid our lives of it. The same is true of impurity, whether it is moral impurity or impure motives. These are two areas we always need work in. Each time we are working back through the stages of recovery, God breaks us little by little or our pride and impurity.
Let the Lord work in your hearts to take the guilt away and accept His forgiveness. Remember that the Lord can't work in a person who is wallowing in his own guilt. Satan has you just where he wants you, Useless.
Thank about it!
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 12/2/2009 11:14:40 PM
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Hello-
I am glad I found you forum on this topic. I am a 45 year old married man who is struggling with same sex attraction and I have acted on those desires. I am in the process of reading the posts and am encouraged by what is shared. I want to share but so not have time now. I will be back soon with another post.
I do believe that I am a Follower of Jesus, and as such, my choices are sinful and I deserve hell.
God bless you for your boldness, and willingness to be a testimony to others such as myself.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 12/4/2009 11:14:40 PM
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Bill521
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Here is the next step in the book "Temptation", by Charles Stanley.
"Get Help"
If you continue to struggle with the same temptation and nothing seems to help, you may need professional help. By professional, I mean someone who can listen and help you gain insight into why you are struggling the way you are. You may need help discovering the root of your particular problem. It could be something related to your childhood that you cannot remember. It may be something more recent that you have failed to connect with your present temptations. Whatever it is, you may need a counselor to help you make the discovery that could set you free.
If you are too proud to ask for help, you will be the loser. I have talked to counselors more times that I can remember. All of us run into things in our lives that just don't make any sense. Sometimes one basic insight can unlock doors that have kept us prisoners for years, but it takes someone trained to know how to get to those remote places in our memories and experiences."
I have been counseled many times, and I believe it has really helped. It is different when you hear yourself talking, and it is amazing how many answers can come out of listening to yourself.
If we could solve our problems by yourself, then why do we still have them? Seek help and don't be afraid that if they know your problem, they won't like you. Fear comes from the devil and not from God. Be victorious!!
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 12/29/2009 10:38:50 PM
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Bill521
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Hey guys,
Most of us are suffering from sexual sin and hurting and confused. Why can't I win at this? As we continue to fight the losses pile higher and we begin to doubt everything about ourselves, even our salvation. We feel alone, since men speak little of these things. But we are not alone. Many of us have fallen into our own sexual pits.
It amazes me to think of the things in this world I let into my mind. Movies and TV shows that seem so innocent. But as we allow the things of this world into our minds, we are not aware of the damage it is doing. How many sexual scenes do we see on the average? We see more than we realize in a day. Magazines that we think are harmless do their damage on our brains. I took a month off from watching TV and after that month I was devastated. So much sins was being pumped into my mind that I wasn't even aware of.
Folks keep yourselves clean before the Lord as much as possible. Be aware of your habits and what you put into your minds. Ask for wisdom and let the Lord guide you on what you need to put into your mind and body. Give Him a place of honor!
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 1/3/2010 3:22:44 PM
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Bill521
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Here is something I read in "Every Mans Battle", "Addictive sex is done in isolation and devoid of relationship. This doesn't necessarily mean that it's done while physically alone. Rather it means that mentally and emotionally the addict is detached, or isolated, from human relationship and contact. Addictive sex is "mere sex," sex for its own sake, sex divorced from authentic interaction of persons. This is most clear regarding fantasy, pornography, and masturbation. But even regarding sex involving a partner, the partner isn't really a "person" but a cipher, an interchangeable part in an impersonal -- almost mechanical -- process. The most intimately personal of human behaviors becomes utterly impersonal."
I can truly identify with the above. When I would have a relationship with a man, it felt as if it were an out of body experience. It was as if someone else were with that guy. And afterward, I felt guilty and dirty and ashamed for what I had just done. It didn't give me real satisfaction, it only took care of the present need, to release the sexual need at the time. Real satisfaction was never met.
The Lord is the only one who can really meet your need. Eventually, He may lead you to your future wife, if you follow His direction. But then, some men are meant to stay single, and then He will still meet your need.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 1/22/2010 9:47:24 PM
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Bill521
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There is so much scripture to help us in our time of need, here are just a few.
Matthew 5:28
But I (Jesus) tell you that anyone who looks at a woman (or in our case, a man,) lustfully has already committed adultery with him in his heart.
Mark 7:21-23
For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man "unclean."
Acts 15:29
You are to abstain from...sexual immorality.
Romans 13:12-13
So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.
It should be loud and clear that the Lord does not approve of sexual immorality! We must keep ourselves pure of heart and sight in order to walk a clear path in this world. He will guide and help us keep out of trouble if we let Him.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/12/2010 10:45:43 PM
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Bill521
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What is God's standard for sexual purity:
Sexual immorality begins with the lustful attitudes of our sinful natures. It is rooted in the darkness within us. Therefore sexual immorality, like other sins that enslave unbelievers, will incur God's wrath.
Our bodies were not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, who has both created us and called us to live in sexual purity. His will is that every Christian be sexually pure--in his thoughts and his words as well as in his actions.
Therefore it is holy and honorable to completely avoid sexual immorality--to repent of it, to flee from it, and to put it to death in our lives, as we live by the Spirit. We've spent enough time living like pagans in passionate lust.
We should not be in close association with another Christian who exists in sexual immorality.
If you entice others to sexual immorality (maybe in the backseat or back room), Jesus Himself has something against you!
Clearly, God does expect us to live according to His standard. In fact, in 1 Thessalonians 4:3 the Bible flatly states that this is God's will. So take His command seriously--Flee sexual immorality!
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/16/2010 8:16:51 PM
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Hello guys,
My name is Alexander. I need help and prayer because I've been struggling with homosexuality since I was 13 years old and I'm 31 years old plus I'm HIV+ now. I've been backsliding for since 1999 and I re-dedicated my life to Jesus again Tuesday early morning. I'm sick of tried of being attracted to men. I have been sleeping with a lot of men over the years and probably infected a lot of them. I don't want to be like this any more. I can't wait for church on Sunday.
I think being sexual abuse when I was 8 years old got me used to sleeping with men and my dad not being there for me along for love and affectionate feeling. I even sold my body to men to sex with and also paid for sex. I have been deleting gay pictures and gay porn in my computer.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/16/2010 10:31:44 PM
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Bill521
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Hey Alexander,
I hope I can be of help to you. I know exactly what you are saying, I too was very tired of being attracted to men. It drove me crazy. Being a Christian was my salvation from that kind of life. I still think about men, but am not active anymore. My thought are quickly being overturned by the Holy Spirit, He helps me stop when the thoughts come to mind. It isn't easy to change your life. Sometimes the Lord can change you overnight, but with me it has been a long time struggle. But there is hope. Don't give up on the Lord. There is no other way.
Surround yourself with Christians and get a friend you can trust. Someone who will be there for you at any time day or night. Ask the Lord to send him your way, He can do it!
You can e-mail me if you like I will be glad to help in any way I can.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/18/2010 9:04:28 AM
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Bill521
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From "Every Mans Battle".
Just A Man:
His name was Job, and in our minds this man is the essential role model of sexual purity in Scripture. In the book of the Bible that tells his story, we see God bragging about Job to Satan: Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. (Job 1:8)
Was God proud of Job? You bet! He applauded His servant's faithfulness in words of highest praise. And if you walked in purity, blameless and upright, He would speak just as proudly of you. Joy would abound in His heart. You already have the freedom and authority to walk purely. You don't need further counseling. You don't need further deliverance.
But such a passage from Scripture may actually discourage you when you compare Job's example with your own life. So let's find out more about how Job did it.
In Job 31:1, we see Job making this startling revelation: "I made a covenant with my eyes not to look lustfully at a person."
A covenant with his eyes! You mean he made a promise with his eyes to not gaze upon a woman, (man)? It's not possible! It can't be true! Yet Job was successful; otherwise, he wouldn't have made this promise:
Job 31:9:
"If my heart has been enticed by a woman (man),
or if I have lurked at my neighbor's door,
then may my wife grind another man's grain,
and may other men sleep with her.
We must learn to apply this to our lives. Not to look on a man in a lustful manner. You can look but quickly turn your eyes away before lust and sin set in you mind. It is possible, I can do it, and so can you. Am I always successful, NO, but I am trying and with the Holy Spirits help you will succeed.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 2/25/2010 9:08:19 AM
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Bill521
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Taken from "Moments Together for Couples"
Fearing God
Jeremiah 32:38-40,
"And they shall be My people, and I will be their God; and I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me always, for their own good, and for the good of their children after them. And I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they Will not turn away from Me."
Why do you think God wants us to fear Him? Perhaps because there are benefits to us for fearing Him.
Just look at the verse above. Here we see that God wants to do us good, and promises He will not turn away from us. But He also does not want us to turn away from Him. Let's look at a few reasons why:
First, the fear of God is the fountain of life for the believer. Proverbs 22:4 says the fear of God, along with humility, leads us to wealth and honor and life. And Psalm 111:10 says that it gives us skill in life and provides wisdom. A healthy respect and fear of God is the key to life.
Second, the fear of God builds faithfulness in the believer. That passage in Jeremiah tells me that the fear of God has been riveted into our souls by the Holy Spirit to keep us faithful. The true test of a man or woman is not what you do when everyone is looking. The real test of a man or woman is what you would do if you knew no one would find out.
Fearing God means I practice His presence in my life, daily-nothing is hidden from Him. He sees everything. He knows everything. I can't hide in the darkness and sin. I can't sneak away from His all-seeing eyes or Omnipotent mind. And, yes, that does keep me faithful.
Third. God fulfills the desires of those who fear Him. Psalm 145:19 says, "He will fulfill the desire of those who fear Him; He will also hear their cry and will save them." Fearing God doesn't just keep me from sin, it leads me out of trouble.
May God etch the fear of Him on my heart so that I may not turn away from Him.
Prayer: Bow in prayer and confess any of those unseen and unheard thoughts, attitudes and actions now.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/5/2010 10:44:47 PM
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Bill521
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I would like to quote more from the book "Every Mans Battle", it really has spoken to me and I want to share it with you.
"We came across a newspaper story about a World War II vet named B.J. Baker who was told he was dying of bone cancer. Given only two years to live, he told the doctors to fight the disease with everything possible. "Give me the treatments," he said. "I'll keep living my life." Meanwhile he and his wife found time for a motor-home drive to Alaska, a fishing excursion to Costa Rica, and several trips to Florida.
Nine years after the diagnosis, he was struggling with shortage of breath and loss of strength but said, "I'm going to keep fighting. Might as well."
Those words were not said in resignation. They were the words of a fighter, a real man, a man who had faced bombs and machine-gun fire in the South Pacific before returning to America and eventually starting Baker Mechanical Company with two pipe wrenches and a $125 pickup truck.
Might as well keep fighting. What was B.J.'s alternative?
To quit and die.
What about you, in your Battle with impure eyes and mind? What's your alternative to fighting?
To stay ensnared and die spiritually.
I felt that way many times, to just give up and quit trying to change. The Lord doesn't want us to do that. It is a lot of work to change but it is worth it. It takes time and it is worth it. Freedom is worth fighting for.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 3/11/2010 9:53:32 AM
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Bill521
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Here is my latest discovery on www.GotQuestions.org.
Question: "Masturbation-is it a sin according to the Bible?"
Answer: The Bible never explicitly mentions masturbation or states whether or not masturbation is a sin. The Scripture most frequently pointed to in regards to masturbation is the story of Onan in Genesis 38:9-10. Some interpret this passage as saying that "spilling your seed" on the ground is a sin. However, that is not precisely what the passage is saying. God condemned Onan not for "spilling his seed" but because Onan refused to fulfill his duty to provide an heir for his brother. The passage is not about masturbation, but rather about fulfilling a family duty. A second passage sometimes used as evidence for masturbation's being a sin is Matthew 5:27-30. Jesus speaks against having lustful thoughts and then says, "If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away." While there are parallels between this passage and masturbation, it is unlikely that masturbation was what Jesus was alluding to.
While the Bible nowhere explicitly states that masturbation is a sin, there is no question as to whether the actions that lead to masturbation are sinful. Masturbation is nearly always the result of lustful thoughts, sexual stimulation, and/or pornographic images. It is these problems that need to be dealt with. If the sins of lust, immoral thoughts, and pornography are forsaken and overcome, masturbation will become a non-issue. Many people struggle with guilty feelings concerning masturbation, when in reality, the things that led to the act are far more worthy of repentance.
There are some biblical principles that can be applied to the issue of masturbation. Ephesians 5:3 declares, "Among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity." It is hard to see how masturbating can pass that particular test. The Bible teaches us, "So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God" (1 Corinthians 10:31). If you cannot give God glory for something, you should not do it. If a person is not fully convinced that an activity is pleasing to God, then it is a sin: "Everything that does not come from faith is sin" (Romans 14:23). Further, we need to remember that our bodies have been redeemed and belong to God. "do you not know that your body is a Temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body" (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). this great truth should have a real bearing on what we do with our bodies. In light of these principles, the conclusion that masturbating is a sin is biblical. Clearly, masturbating is not glorifying to God; it does not avoid the appearance of immorality, nor does it pass the test of God's having ownership over our bodies.
This is something I have believed for some time now but didn't have the words to put it in nor the scripture to use. Consider it and pray about it and see if it isn't from the Lord.
Bill
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