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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/3/2008 7:58:38 AM
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prophet15
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bill,i want you to know i thank you very much for this forum , as i have been coming here for several months and it has encouraged me a great deal just knowing that iam not alone . god bless you my brother
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/3/2008 7:29:40 PM
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Darien8869
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Amen to that! Bill is a great encouragement. I too am thankful for all the help purelight has going for him. That's great! It's a lonely struggle but we're gonna make it!
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/6/2008 5:31:17 PM
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r0ck2oo2
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Hey guys! I am 24 years old, from Springfield, Missouri. I have just been googling different forums that I could become a part of regarding this topic. I have gone through this on more than one occasion. By 'this,' I mean getting to a point in my life in which I do not want to be gay anymore. I strongly believe that it is a psychological battle. I consider myself to be very in sync with my own feelings. I have always used a lot of introspection. I know that I've had problems with feeling a lack of acceptance, approval, or love from my dad. I know that I have had self-image problems. Furthermore, I also know that I've had envy for other guys. The last time I tried to 'not be gay,' it was in November or December of last year. At this point in my life, I had just graduated from massage therapy school, and I finally got the sense that my dad was proud of me. It seemed as if I found something that I had been looking for my whole life. It was amazing. However, a couple months later, in January. I went to a party that was held by some gay friends, and I ended up meeting a gay man. I ended up having sex for the first time. At that point, I ended up getting involved (having sex with another man). After these sexual encounters, I just remember feeling how absolutely disgusted I was with myself. I felt guilty - - dirty. I tried to obtain relationships with other guys, but to no avail. That just left me feeling rejected and hurt. At the beginning of summer, I decided to move back home, for financial purposes. Over the course of the summer, I have come to know my dad a little bit better and have made more realizations about our relationship. Anyway, basically just out of the blue, I got the urge where I didn't want to be gay anymore. I know it's going to be a battle, because it always has been. I just feel like this time I am better suited for the battle that lies ahead. I think one reason why I've always fallen back into old habits is because I really couldn't let go of friends and partying. I have already given up a lot over the past year. I feel as if I've grown out of the partying scene. So, that is one thing that I have going for me now. Anyway, it feels like I've just been babbling and rambling. Hopefully I haven't lost anyone yet. I guess I am just going to end this with one last thought. When I came out to my friends and family and admitted that I was gay. It felt very liberating. However, when you come to the realization that you don't have to be gay - - it takes things to a whole new level of liberation.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/10/2008 4:39:49 PM
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Bill521
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Hay Guys,
I am wondering if any of you had the same thing happen to me in my struggle? There were many times that I asked "God do You Care?" My struggle was hard and it lasted many years and I asked God many times why He didn't heal me or take this thing from my side? I was angry at Him many times yet He still loved me even when I turned my back to Him. How much more love can anyone give me? No one that I can think of. Here are some thoughts from a Sunday School lesson.
1. If God really loves me, why is He allowing me to suffer this way?
2. Is God paying attention? What is He going to do for me now that I am homosexual?
3. Where is God when I struggle and need Him most?
4. Why doesn't God just step in and heal me?
These are all good questions, and really need answered. Well lets see what He says about it!
1. Lets look at the account of Lazarus in John 11:1-3. "Now a man named Lazarus was sick. He was from Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair. So the sisters sent word to Jesus, "Lord, the one you love is sick.'"
John, you'll notice, goes out of his was to tell us that Jesus loved Lazarus. This wasn't just brotherly love for a fellow human being but a personal, heartfelt love. Jesus loved Lazarus with the love of God, the one and only perfect love--what the Bible calls agape love.Yet Lazarus wasn't just sick; he was gravely ill. In the original language of John's Gospel, the word sick refers to a sickness leading to death. In other words, Lazarus was dying.
This account telly me that Jesus really loved Lazarus. Do you believe that He loved him more than He loves us? I don't think so. Jesus could have gone and healed him right then and there, but He didn't, as you will see later. Do you think God doesn't love you just because He hasn't cured you yet? I say cured because that is what people say. People believe that homosexuality is a disease, well I don't believe that at all. A disease is caused by a germ or a virus of some kind. We are not viruses. God does love us very much and as I have said before that He loves us enough that He doesn't want to leave us as we are. He wants to change us to be the image of Jesus His son. And if we give Him the opportunity, He will do just that.
I will continue later.
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/12/2008 8:52:18 PM
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Bill521
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Hey guys,
Question two. Is God paying attention? What is He going to do since I am homosexual? Good question, let's see what the Bible says!
Let me ask you a question. Do you think it's easy to know when "God allows" something, such as homosexuality, to happen for a greater purpose? I do. You say why would God allow this to happen to me? Let's see why.
The account of Lazarus demonstrates something we all need to keep in mind: It is possible for Jesus to love us and for us to love Him in return and still be what we are. Not only that, but there are times when God allows us to be what we are for a specific purposes in His great and often incomprehensible plan. With Lazarus, someone Jesus loved had fallen deathly ill. And it was a situation that was going to get a lot worse before it got better.
Faced with a problem beyond their ability to fix, Mary and Martha sent word to Jesus. This is a simple but beautiful example of what prayer really is--taking our problems or situations to the Father through Jesus Christ, and humbly asking Him to produce the remedy we could never provide.
But it didn't happen that way.
Jesus did not drop everything He was doing and go to Lazarus immediately. He stayed two more days where He was. Instead, of coming immediately, Jesus sent these words of assurance: "This sickness is not to end in death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God may be glorified by it" John 11:4.
I don't know how you feel about the passage above but it sure helped me to understand that the Lord has something special for me to do. How can I help others in my situation? What can I do to encourage others who are struggling? How can I help? There are many who are in our situation and need our help, now is the time. Show them the love of Jesus Christ and encourage them that Jesus loves them just as they are and after they know Jesus as Lord then they can see the miracle of change in their lives. We must love people through the eyes of Jesus, not ours.
Meditate on these things.
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/23/2008 9:09:00 PM
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Bill521
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Howdy;
I hope you all have had time to meditate on the things I said last time. I truly believe that the Lord allows us to go through situations and other things in our lives so that the Lord can get the glory. Remember the Lord wants us to give Him glory in all that we do and all that we are. I just went through two days at a choir conference, it was titled "Free to Worship". We are free to worship the Lord because of who He is. We question the way He runs things, but do we think we can do better? We can question the Lord, but we must be ready for His answer. Remember He said "My grace is sufficient for you". Jesus loves us and He wants us to be happy and joyful in our lives. We must learn to accept the things in our lives. Sometimes He will heal you right away, sometimes not. But we must let Him be in control of our lives. If we could do it ourselves, why would we need a savior? Free to worship is given to us by what the Lord did at Calvary. Remember what He went through for us and our freedom, what is the least we can do for Him?
Bill
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RE: Comming out of homosexuality - 8/30/2008 11:29:03 AM
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Bill521
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Hey guys,
Here is more I have learned. First of all, God in His infinite wisdom knows that we wouldn't be able to handle knowing everything He had planned for us all at once. We might find ourselves tempted to move out ahead of Him--to accomplish by ourselves what He has planned to do for us.
Second, if He revealed everything to us up front, that would keep us from learning to trust Him and to have absolute faith that He is in control.
I believe that is partly why Jesus didn't fill in the blanks when it came to what He planned to do about Lazarus's sickness. Had He told Mary and Martha from the beginning that Lazarus would die, be buried, and then be raised from the dead, it's likely they wouldn't have learned the lessons about faith that Jesus wanted these two, dear, grieving women to learn.
When God gives us a personal word in our suffering, we don't need all the details up front. It's enough to know that the great Creator of the universe cares enough to speak to us individually.
As before, would we keep our faith in the Lord if He fixed us all at once, so to speak? If He did, we wouldn't need Him at all. Just think about it. He is our Savior and Healer and works in His own good time. We must do nothing but trust Him. Do you?
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