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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 2/29/2008 10:13:41 PM
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Leon_Figg3
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saved9201, Forgive me for speaking in broad general terms. I do not believe that I can give you specific examples it just strikes me, from what I have heard, that people tend to make assumptions about Obama's views about Iraq and the war on terror based on the fact that at one time he attended a Moslem school. Then those that defend Obama tend to make assumptions that such assumptions are somehow racist or prejudical against all Moslems. It's all part of the political games played during an electon year.
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/7/2008 10:02:29 PM
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Here is a well researched piece about a key adviser to the Obama campaign, one Robert Malley. quote:
Simon Malley, an Egytian-born Jew who rejected his faith and embraced Marxism, was the father of Robert and a crusader for the Palestinians and their terrorist leader, Yassir Arafat. As a frequent guest of the Malleys, Arafat was the beneficiary of much of Simon Malley’s writing and publishing efforts funded, according to the French government, by the communist Soviet Union. Visiting the sins of the father upon the son would be an unfair burden were it not for the career chosen by young Robert. As National Security Council Director for Near East and South Asian Affairs during the Clinton administration and Special Assistant to the President for Arab-Israeli Affairs, Robert Malley was present during the talks at Camp David, which failed, causing great embarassment for the Clinton White House. Robert Malley is now a key adviser to the campaign of presidential candidate, Barack Obama. Alone among the American and Israeli participants, Malley has publicly blamed the failure squarely upon Israel. A series of articles written with Palestinian adviser and cohort of Arafat, Hussein Agha, have sought to portray Israel as an imperialistic occupier of “colonies”, a word use he coined to describe disputed lands in the West Bank and Gaza. In an interview with the Financial Times, an unnamed adviser (reputed to be Malley) reveals the political strategy he advocates for Barack Obama: I am limited to only three paragraphs, so please read the entire article here Obama sure is a very interesting fellow...
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/20/2008 6:09:53 PM
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Obama church published Hamas terror manifesto Compares charter calling for murder of Jews to Declaration of Independence Posted: March 20, 2008 12:45 pm Eastern By Aaron Klein © 2008 WorldNetDaily Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama's Chicago church reprinted a manifesto by Hamas that defended terrorism as legitimate resistance, refused to recognize the right of Israel to exist and compared the terror group's official charter – which calls for the murder of Jews – to America's Declaration of Independence. The Hamas piece was published on the "Pastor's Page" of the Trinity United Church of Christ newsletter reserved for Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose anti-American, anti-Israel remarks landed Obama in hot water, prompting the presidential candidate to deliver a major race speech earlier this week. Hamas, responsible for scores of shootings, suicide bombings and rocket launchings against civilian population centers, is listed as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=59456 This is typical of his church & yesterday it was reported that the Black Panthers endorsed him & he carried it on his website. Is this man a socialist, a democrat, a fraud??
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/20/2008 11:09:38 PM
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wing2000
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...ya really like that World Nut Daily don't ya JimBob
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/20/2008 11:16:21 PM
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What I'm going to say may offend or upset some Crosswalkers, but I will say it anyway because frankly, way too many people here are not very well informed and are therefore unable to discern good from bad journalism, factual information from balderdash and nonsense. WorldnetDaily is an extremely unreliable source of information. It is difficult for me not to laugh anytime anyone here uses it as a reference, but this is not shocking considering the low level of factual knowledge I have seen demonstrated here by a considerable number of Current Events participants. The fact that some here were going up in arms because Barack Obama's middle name is "Hussein" - while utterly ignoring and not wanting to learn that "Hussein" is a word whose root means "good" (not to mention the fact that "Barak" appears in the Old Testament repeatedly and that it means "blessing") - or, the fact that "Barack Hussein" is merely a composite SEMITIC name, not unlike other SEMITIC names such as Omar (from Umar) Bradley, or Benjamin (from Binyamin), and others, is proof. Now, having gotten that out of the way, I find it pathetic that 3 State Department contractors looked at Barack Obama's passport record without authorization. Barack Obama is an American citizen and his privacy deserves to be respected and protected no less than the privacy of George W. Bush, of Dick Cheney, of any elected official, of any military staff, of any average citizen in any village, town, or city in any state of the Union. This is shameful. I wonder how it'd be like if this had occurred to John McCain (or to Mitt Romney or to Mike Huckabee, were either one of these two in McCain's place).
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/20/2008 11:40:09 PM
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I pointed it out b4 & it's gospel truth according to the media themslves about 85% are democrats or leftists and give money to leftist causes. It's no cooincidence that when a dem politician is in a scandal it's hardly ever mentioned they're dems; the media covers for the weak Obama & he's never had to face tough questions compare him to the next pres. McCain when the Times made up the adultery story, he took questions until they all were answered, Obama only gave a self covering political speech & slid away.It's no coincidence that on the anniversary of Iraq all three networks only gave time to anti-war groups, or that w/ the Rev Wright abomination speeches CBS & NBC had a black-out of showing the videos. The Times ie always is publishing corrections, alternatives like WND & Drudge never; nor have they plagerized nor been rebuked like the NYT made up story on McCain was ridiculed recentlyby it's own Public Editor. It's the main street media that no one can trust. Prove that 1 word, one is out of place in WND's reporting of Obama's many wrong for America policies, he's a dangerous character.
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 1:05:45 AM
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WorldnetDaily is an extremely unreliable source of information. It is difficult for me not to laugh anytime anyone here uses it as a reference, but this is not shocking considering the low level of factual knowledge I have seen demonstrated here by a considerable number of Current Events participants. WorldnetDaily unreliable? Yeah right! I guess the next thing you'll be trying to do is convince us that wrasslin is fake or Elvis is dead. -Julius
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 11:20:10 AM
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I don't know where else to put this, without opening up yet another thread ; but I seen this --- 'Rice to Obama: Sorry for Passport Breach' --- and all I could say is, "WHAT...???" Story HERE
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 11:30:44 AM
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TomTurn
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What do you want from her?
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 11:33:35 AM
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WorldnetDaily is an extremely unreliable source of information. I don't know if it is or not. I've never read it that I know of. What I do know is the theology Obama joined himself to and is raising his children in. It is a fact that Rev. Wright's chruch is a Black Liberation Theology church and is guided by the teachings of James Cone famous BLT Theologian. If you or anyone else would like to learn what they teach you can join us in the Theology section - Doctrine folder to find out what their theology is. The truth about the theology is found in any theology book. Rev. Wright asked us to study the works of James Cone inorder to know what "he teaches/preaches" as truth.
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 1:00:22 PM
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Pat-rebel_lady
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ORIGINAL: TomTurn What do you want from her? Ok, someone else started a new thread (that which I tried to avoid doing) for this --- and asked a few of the question marks in my original "What...???" to the story posted : HERE
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 2:00:55 PM
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TomTurn
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Pat, all 3 candidates records were looked at, there is no story to it about just Obama
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 2:02:58 PM
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TomTurn
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If I have missed it, which is possible since things move fast, am still looking for a list of reasons to vote for Obama. Thanks
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 3:13:15 PM
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If I have missed it, which is possible since things move fast, am still looking for a list of reasons to vote for Obama. If I thought you were sincere in that request, I might be inclined to reply. However, you have already indicated you don't like any of the remaining three candidates...perhaps you would like to make an argument for a write in?
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 6:16:27 PM
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TomTurn
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If I thought you were sincere in that request, I might be inclined to reply. However, you have already indicated you don't like any of the remaining three candidates...perhaps you would like to make an argument for a write in? One person answered rather well in words as to why in another thread, though I think they are way off base and fooled. As to a write in? If asked I will not run. If elected I will not serve. (-:
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 7:11:30 PM
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wing2000
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One person answered rather well in words as to why in another thread, though I think they are way off base and fooled. Yes, I saw you diasected their reply - line by line. quote:
As to a write in? If asked I will not run. If elected I will not serve. (-: ..actually, who are you supporting for President (since you are not happy with McCain, Clinton or Obama)? It seems only fair that you go on record...(that is if you're going to scrutinize every one else :) !
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 7:24:30 PM
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TomTurn
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Yes, I saw you diasected their reply - line by line. No, that was not a good reply, so I asked questions. It was after that, the one I replied to as a good answer quote:
..actually, who are you supporting for President (since you are not happy with McCain, Clinton or Obama)? It seems only fair that you go on record...(that is if you're going to scrutinize every one else :) No, I was asking for reasons to vote for Obama, the only one that got "scrutinized" was the one that did not give good reasons in my opinion, mostly feelings. And remember I am the one that started the thread to freely post the reasons why or why not to vote for someone, with no argument (though some are not following the rule). Anyway, currently I am still mulling it over since all 3 candidates fall far short in my opinion and I cannot give good reasons to vote for them. If I had to pull for one of those 3 it would most likely be McCain but that is not a done deal yet. For the first tme since 1976 I am actually thinking about not voting and if there was a none of the above option, I would do that. Forgot to add so coming back for an edit. I do notice or it seems that more than a few seem to be kind of "offended" when asked for reasons to vote for Obama.
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? A fraud! - 3/21/2008 8:14:49 PM
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ORIGINAL: RichLP What I'm going to say may offend or upset some Crosswalkers, but I will say it anyway because frankly, way too many people here are not very well informed and are therefore unable to discern good from bad journalism, factual information from balderdash and nonsense. WorldnetDaily is an extremely unreliable source of information. It is difficult for me not to laugh anytime anyone here uses it as a reference, but this is not shocking considering the low level of factual knowledge I have seen demonstrated here by a considerable number of Current Events participants. The fact that some here were going up in arms because Barack Obama's middle name is "Hussein" - while utterly ignoring and not wanting to learn that "Hussein" is a word whose root means "good" (not to mention the fact that "Barak" appears in the Old Testament repeatedly and that it means "blessing") - or, the fact that "Barack Hussein" is merely a composite SEMITIC name, not unlike other SEMITIC names such as Omar (from Umar) Bradley, or Benjamin (from Binyamin), and others, is proof. Now, having gotten that out of the way, I find it pathetic that 3 State Department contractors looked at Barack Obama's passport record without authorization. Barack Obama is an American citizen and his privacy deserves to be respected and protected no less than the privacy of George W. Bush, of Dick Cheney, of any elected official, of any military staff, of any average citizen in any village, town, or city in any state of the Union. This is shameful. I wonder how it'd be like if this had occurred to John McCain (or to Mitt Romney or to Mike Huckabee, were either one of these two in McCain's place) . How dare this racist government harrass...white candidates for president because statistically it's majority white so far & who knows might of involved Romney, Biden & others. Shame on this govt.for spying on Hillary & McCain, Harry Reid should nail the Bush White House.
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 9:02:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: TomTurn Pat, all 3 candidates records were looked at, there is no story to it about just Obama That News link has changed 3 times that I know of; the first 2 made no mention of the other 2 candidates records looked at; I'm sorry I didn't cut, paste and save them. Anyway, I was out most of the day and when I got home I found the Headline and write-up had changed to include the other 2 as will, but not at the same time: quote:
"The companies that provided the contractors were The Analysis Corp. and Stanley Inc. Stanley is a Virginia-based company that earlier this week won a five-year, $570-million government contract extension to support passport services. According to agency officials, the first Stanley employee improperly accessed Obama's records on Jan. 9 and was fired within days. The second contractor, employed by The Analysis Corp., pried into similar records on Feb. 21 but was not terminated. The third incident involved another Stanley employee and was swiftly fired. It was not immediately clear why the contractor with The Analysis Corp. had not been fired, while the two Stanley consultants had. Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday that a separate search conducted after the Obama revelation showed that workers also had snooped on McCain and Clinton. The worker who had been reprimanded in the Obama incident had also reviewed McCain's records earlier this year, McCormack said. While the employee has not been fired, that person no longer has access to passport files, he said. I can assure you that person's going to be at the top of the list of the inspector general when they talk to people, and we are currently reviewing our (disciplinary) options with respect to that person," McCormack said. In Clinton's case, someone accessed her file last summer as part of a training session involving another State Department worker. McCormack said the violation was immediately recognized and the person was admonished. That person was not involved in the later incidents, meaning four people were involved in all." (Highlights mine) Latest Story HERE This is totally crazy!! The sad things is that I am so burnt out on politics and have such a distrust for the government, media and stupid people of this country as well. I don't believe a single word I hear about any of the presidential candidates whether its positive or negative. You can't believe ANYTHING you hear, read or see. It's ridiculous. I don't even want to vote now. Pat
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? - 3/21/2008 10:08:37 PM
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This is totally crazy!! The sad things is that I am so burnt out on politics and have such a distrust for the government, media and stupid people of this country as well. I don't believe a single word I hear about any of the presidential candidates whether its positive or negative. You can't believe ANYTHING you hear, read or see. It's ridiculous. I don't even want to vote now. Ditto, as said above, for the first time since 1976 I am thinking about not voting
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? A fraud! - 3/21/2008 11:25:02 PM
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jimbob1
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It's got nothing to do w/ you, you could almost here millions of liberals nation-wide when the news came out thinking it's because of his race, it's a right wing conspiracy, yada, yada. If it was just Obama it would of been selective for whatever reason & a wrong against him; but it wasn't and it didn't give the Obama campaign a distraction away from the Wright scandal. Why these non govt. employees, they were contractors were snooping I'm sure we'll find out. I heard an almost sadness in the guy that covers the White House that it was a broader snoop, and the lib media couldn't use it to distract from Wright.
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? A fraud! - 3/22/2008 6:22:33 PM
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Some supporters of Obama have said that he will try to reduce the # of abortions in this country. I'm not attacking Obama or those people here, but I'm curious as to how he will to that? Especially since he opposed the Partial-Birth abortion ban act and voted against Roberts and Alito?
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RE: Who is Barack Obama? A fraud! - 3/22/2008 6:45:17 PM
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ORIGINAL: CT23 Some supporters of Obama have said that he will try to reduce the # of abortions in this country. I'm not attacking Obama or those people here, but I'm curious as to how he will to that? Especially since he opposed the Partial-Birth abortion ban act and voted against Roberts and Alito? Yes, I have addressed this a couple of times. In his words, "Every abortion is a tragedy..." His plan to reduce abortions is to reduce unwanted pregnancies through education & access to health care and make alternatives such as adoption more accesible and desirable, as well as help people get the education, training, and jobs they need so they don't feel so desperate. Many Christians, such as myself, hate abortion (I got pregnant at 17 & kept my ds who is now 19, then got pregnant two years later before we were ready; both pregnancies had complications (I almost died the first time) so, I think I am in a position to speak on the issue). Anyhow- I HATE abortion and never considered it as an option, however, I do not believe legislation is the solution. Tara P
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