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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:20:21 PM
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clag4christ
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I've never heard anyone on their broadcast state that being single is a sin. That would be unbiblical. Could you find the reference for me so I could read/hear it for myself?
I'm not going to go into how I feel about purposefully limiting family size and the use of hormonal contraceptives here because it would be inappropriate.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:22:00 PM
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I'm not going to go into how I feel about purposefully limiting family size and the use of hormonal contraceptives here because it would be inappropriate.
I appreciate that. Perhaps if we could find a nice way to discuss that, it could be another thread....????? Maggie was supposed to finish telling me her view on that, but we never got around to finishing that conversation.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:22:12 PM
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I'm not going to go into how I feel about purposefully limiting family size and the use of hormonal contraceptives here because it would be inappropriate.
Thank you
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:30:45 PM
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Again, Focus on the Family is there to help married folks with and without kids. If you don't like the organizations purpose then start your own for Single Daughters in Christ...or something. FOF is not belittling and I take offense to statements of that nature. They've done an amazing amount of good in this fallen world and for that I'm grateful...
Actually, it is belittling when they make statements about marriage being the foundation of society. It tells singles they are second class society members. I don't think they mean it to belittle singles, yet they do. They are just trying to stress the importance of marriage, committment, and walking like Christ- which all christians should be doing. I am sorry that you take offence at that, but there it is. I absolutely agree that they are doing a great ministry and am grateful as well... But they are not perfect...
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:37:52 PM
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clag4christ
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Marriage is the foundation of society. That does not make singles second class. The Lord set up marriage with Adam and Eve and thus started our civilization. That's a fact, lol. The Lord uses Singles and Marrieds for different purposes. Obviously Christian Singles can do much work for the Lord and not be encumbered by children or a spouse. But Christians whom are married and that have children are training up the next generation...how is this not foundational to society?
I never claimed that they were perfect. I disagree with Dr. Dobson on a few things (IVF for one)...but again, their stated focus is on families and children.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:40:52 PM
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sharonjef2007
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That would be unbiblical. Could you find the reference for me so I could read/hear it for myself?
On one of the satelite web sites they have called boundless.org. They have had some CRAZY artlicles on there and book reviews regarding how those who are intentionally single are sinning.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:43:35 PM
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clag4christ
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I like boundless.org. It's helpful, imo, for young people struggling to stay pure and be committed Christians in this world. Again, could you possibly pm me or link here the articles that you find offensive?
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:45:36 PM
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HisCovenant
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Actually, Adam was created single first- and that started our civilization. And Colossians says that Christ is what hold all things together- not marriage. He is our foundation, our cornerstone. Marriage and children are important to the moral continuation, but they are not the foundation.
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but again, their stated focus is on families and children.
yes, and singles and the childless are a part of families.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 3:55:29 PM
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clag4christ
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Adam was created single and the desired a helper in life, so the Lord created Eve. Obviously Christ is the cornerstone. But marriage and children play a pivitol role in the foundation of our society. Those with children, again, are raising the next generation, of hopefully, believers, who will go out and help to make disciples of all nations.
I fully understand that childless couples and singles are in the Lord's family. I'm not denying that; it would be ridiculous for me to do so! But FOF is there mostly for marrieds with and without children. They do offer resources to singles and I've heard many messages directed toward singles on their radio broadcasts. Really, I don't see fault in their mission or the way that they go about it.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 4:08:36 PM
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This is *not* a debate thread. It is not a thread about singleness being sinful or not.
It is a support thread for those not trying to conceive.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/23/2007 5:11:16 PM
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sharonjef2007
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I like boundless.org. It's helpful, imo, for young people struggling to stay pure and be committed Christians in this world. Again, could you possibly pm me or link here the articles that you find offensive?
PM just sent....
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 8/24/2007 11:48:30 AM
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OK, I've been really busy lately (new student week here), so I haven't had much time to check in, so I'm going to respond to several people in the same post.
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I have had several aquaintances hand their infant to me thinking if I just held a baby, I would get the bug. As if I haven't been holding babies since I was old enough to babysit... 
That's the kind of thinking that perplexes me. I love holding babies, but I love giving them back to their mothers, too. My BIL came up with the term "birth control moment" for when other people's children start screaming. 
"Baby Rabies"??? I'll have to remember that one. 
Sharon, good for you for setting those boundaries.
Sarah, thank you! That was a wonderful thing you did for your SIL.
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I'd say the other 10% of the time is people who feel you are being "un-Christian" by doing such and such. So if you are a woman who claims Christ but does not want children, then you are not following the scriptures, and must therefore be chastised.
That seems to be the ones I meet the most (how did I get that lucky?  ). True, kids are a blessing, but not everyone needs the same blessings! That would make for a really boring world, and I think God wanted life to be a bit more interesting  .
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To those who are childfree, next time you get one of those rude, uninvited comments, perhaps you should respond with.........
"Jesus didn't have children, so He could be busy about His Father's business. Don't you think it's more Christlike to be childfree?"
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