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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/11/2007 7:05:32 AM
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Now, I know all condoms are not alike. So, I guess I need an education. Any suggestions or anything I need to know?
It would be wise for your husband to try a few himself beforehand. My dH is highly sensitive to spermicide, and you wouldn't want a nasty surprise on the wedding night.
This is going to sound really stupid, but read the directions. It's possible to put them on backwards, thereby greatly reducing their effectiveness. Get ones with receptacle ends.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/11/2007 9:15:26 AM
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Prudent, where did you hear that about the spermicide? DH is really allergic to it(like break out in hives allergic) and so we don't use it at all with condoms and we haven't had any problems. My OB said it shouldn't make a difference if they fit properly and are used according to the directions.
Sharon, when are ya'll getting married? I would suggest buying a multipack of different kinds and trying them out together, we *finally* found one that works really well for us and I'll PM you the site that we order from.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/11/2007 2:53:51 PM
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Ryane, we are getting married on August 23, 2008 (assuming we can book the church for that date).
Neither he nor I have an allergy to latex, so that should not be a problem. As for the effectivness of condoms, I have never met anyone in real life who have who has gotten preggers (or gotten someone that way) while using condoms consistently and correctly.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/13/2007 10:41:20 AM
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We've used condoms for about 8 years and no baby.
If you know how to use them and buy quality ones, they are way more effective than 85%. As in all other areas of life, the quality you buy and how you care for & use what you buy can greatly change how it works/lasts.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/13/2007 12:10:14 PM
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Ours don't have spermicide, either. One important thing I've been told that really helps prevent breakage is to use plenty of lube with them. Yes, many brands are pre-lubed, but we've found that it helps to use a little extra.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/16/2007 10:07:45 PM
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Other then the possibility of allergic reaction, how else does or does not the spermicide effect sex?
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/17/2007 11:54:44 AM
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One of the reasons that it's worth checking out different brands and types of condoms is because they often vary in shape and fit. Some of them are narrower at the tip and that can be uncomfortable for the man.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 11/26/2007 10:46:18 AM
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Spermicide doesn't affect sex at all, as long as there's no allergic reaction.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/16/2007 8:37:02 PM
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Ok....so small problem now with the condom thing.....
My FH does not want to use them on the wedding night or honeymoon. He does not want there to be a barrier there at all. Now, since we are not getting married until August and my cycle is varied from month to month, I have no idea where I will be in my cycle at that time. I would not mind not using condoms, but I most certainly don't want to get pregnant either.
I'm also not interested in the FAM or any other method like that. I'd rather be safe then sorry and use some sort of protection all the time.
So, I need some other ideas. How effective is spermacide alone without a barrier? Can someone tell me about diaphrams? I know they have been mentioned around here before, but I think I'd be scared the diaphram would move around or I wouldn't be able to remove it or something.
Sheesh...this whole trying to stay unpregnant thing takes a lot of thought and work!
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/16/2007 8:59:44 PM
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Um, I looked into something called Lea's Shield, there is another thread just started in women's only about stuff like that. But here is the website for the shield. I thought about getting it, but money was an issue at the time.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/16/2007 9:10:58 PM
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Um, I looked into something called Lea's Shield, there is another thread just started in women's only about stuff like that. But here is the website for the shield. I thought about getting it, but money was an issue at the time.
Hmmmm...interesting! Although, the web site says there is still a 8.7% chance of pregnacy after 6 months of use. That is still kinda high.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/17/2007 7:12:14 AM
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Sorry to tell you this, but the ONLY thing that has 100% no baby rate is abstinence. Anything has a failure rate. I think, though, those rates of failure aren't the actual product but perfect use of the product. And I do think that diaphragms and things like that do have a higher rate, just given the nature of the product. I think you can couple the shield with spermicide. I know of a couple who uses condoms and spermicide and never got pregnant.
I wanted to point out something. Plan, research and do the best of your knowledge to prevent a pregnancy. Keep in mind, though, that if God wants you to have a baby, He can bypass all of those things and get you pregnant. Look at Mary.  I'm sure you know that, but just keep in mind that if a person is having sex there is no 100% guarantee they will remain baby free no matter what they use. Unless they have a hysterectomy, but I'm sure that's not an option for you!
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/17/2007 9:59:26 AM
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I think, though, those rates of failure aren't the actual product but perfect use of the product.
The failure rate could happen in three ways: God overriding the product, faulty manufacturing of the product, and faulty use of the product by the couple. You can greatly decrease your chances of getting pregnant and lower the failure rate by using whatever you use correctly and consistently. You can also decrease your chances by buying higher quality products.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/17/2007 2:06:01 PM
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I think, though, those rates of failure aren't the actual product but perfect use of the product.
Most patient information packets give both the perfect use rate, which is proper and consistent use, and actual use rate, which is the "real world" rate given imperfect knowledge and imperfect use. It can be very informative to compare both rates when looking at various forms of bc, because it tells you a lot about how "high maintenance" a method is, meaning how much involvement it takes to use the method correctly.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/17/2007 3:59:27 PM
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A diaphragm might be an option also, used with spermicide your chances of pregnancy are pretty slim but make sure that neither of you are allergic to it BEFORE your wedding night.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/17/2007 7:36:25 PM
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Sorry to tell you this, but the ONLY thing that has 100% no baby rate is abstinence. Anything has a failure rate. I think, though, those rates of failure aren't the actual product but perfect use of the product. And I do think that diaphragms and things like that do have a higher rate, just given the nature of the product. I think you can couple the shield with spermicide. I know of a couple who uses condoms and spermicide and never got pregnant.
I wanted to point out something. Plan, research and do the best of your knowledge to prevent a pregnancy. Keep in mind, though, that if God wants you to have a baby, He can bypass all of those things and get you pregnant. Look at Mary. I'm sure you know that, but just keep in mind that if a person is having sex there is no 100% guarantee they will remain baby free no matter what they use. Unless they have a hysterectomy, but I'm sure that's not an option for you!
That is a reality that I am aware of and yet I'm trying really REALLY hard to be sure I'm going to be doing everything I can so that I do not end up pregnant.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/18/2007 12:30:14 AM
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Is your df against any type of barriers...even female kinds, like the diaphram? Or just the male counterpart?
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/18/2007 12:33:26 AM
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I know you've said that you're not interested in doing NFP...but just as a small encouragement...and because you've got the endo. Temping and paying attention to your fertile signs before you're to be married could help you recognize whether you're fertile during your honeymoon and wedding night...and then 'precautions' could be taken on your part to avoid a baby.
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RE: The NOT TTC Support Thread..... - 12/18/2007 2:09:22 AM
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I would like to toss in my two cents. Husband and I have been married for two years, and I had been on BC since before we got married, cause I wanted one that worked and I wanted to make sure my body was building up the protection. I was miserable. Husband and I decided about three months ago to go off of our hormonal protection and find another method. I finshed my perscription out and got fitted for a diaphragm. I love it!!!! No hormones. You add spermicide to the inside slip it in, its a little awkward at first but after a few times of putting it in and taking it out, its a breeze. Its a little bit of a mood killer when hubby is in a "I want it now mood" but it gives me a little extra time to get in the mood if I'm not quite ready at that time. You can put it in before dinner if you have plans for after kind of thing. Its a slippery little sucker and there have been a couple of times that I have lost control of the litle thing and had to start from scratch.
When fitted right, you dont feel a thing, husband shouldnt be able to feel it, and you get to enjoy that "unprotected" feeling. After IC fall asleep remove it eight hours later and you are all good. If you take care of it and use it appropriately I think that the fail rate is about the same as condoms maybe sligtly higher.
It does have some down sides, if you are prone to UTI's it can be a little issue, no problem here so far. My MIL used one for years and years and only achieved pregnancy when she was not using it and was protected the rest of the time. The thing to remember about any method is that it is deffinately not a sure thing, like the have said and that there cannot be ANY cheating
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