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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 7/31/2007 9:03:40 PM
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Hayseed
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Gretsch 6120-60 Nashville
Fender 62RI Jazzmaster
Fender 59RI Bassman
If I'm playing an outdoor gig or large venue I'll daisychain the Bassman to my '72 Fender Twin Reverb (extremely loud, but a very cool sound combined)
For effects I've got a 63RI Fender Tube Reverb
Early 70's Echoplex
Boss DD-2 Digital Delay
Boss Blues Driver for a little extra punch
Then I've got a couple vibrato and tremelo pedals a guy built for me.
As you can tell I play mainly Rockabilly and Surf music these days.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/1/2007 5:40:47 AM
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Something slightly different:
Do people ever just go for it with guitar and amp, no effects?
And what guitar/amp combination would be your ideal choice for that adventure?
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/1/2007 3:14:51 PM
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Hayseed
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Something slightly different:
Do people ever just go for it with guitar and amp, no effects?
And what guitar/amp combination would be your ideal choice for that adventure?
I do it many times with my Bassman/Gretsch combination. It's a bit limiting because I can't usually turn up enough to get the natural overdrive. Otherwise, it sounds really good.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/1/2007 11:52:24 PM
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I had a Tele that I also played through a Bassman. The tubes just warmed and thickened everything up and the hotter they got, the better it sounded.
It's not so bad to run dry through tubes. With solid state amps you need some kind of effect, at least a little reverb or delay to keep it from sounding so sterile.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/3/2007 11:07:52 PM
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I think it's ice. You know... the solid state of water? Yuk yuk, I crack me up. (guess someone's gotta laugh...)
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/4/2007 11:30:04 AM
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'Solid State' refers to electronic amplification that uses transistors or integrated circuits (computer chips) instead of vacuum tubes.
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/4/2007 12:16:00 PM
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Scanelous indeed! Solid state amps, for those who don't know, are amplifers that utilize "solid state" electronics (transisotrs and IC's - intergrated circuts) as opposed to vaccum tubes to amplify the sound of your instruement. One of the "advantages" of an ss amp is that it's cheaper than a comprable tube amp. Tube amps are considered by many to be the epitome of eleictric guitar amplification primarily for thier overdriven tones (tube amps tend to gradually break up so you can go from shimmering clean to gritty by playing harder or using your guitar's volume control). Solid state amps are publicly ridiculed for being solid state but check this out. A whole lot of people use them. Again, they're cheap. They are used by many a weekend warrior and even some pros to great effect and most people can not tell the difference in tone between a tube amp and a decent solid state. And while tube amps are hightly desirable, there are examples of the species that are horrible amps (I've heard this said about some of Peavy's early amps from the 70's). But IMO, s.s. amps are fine if you want a big clean tone (almost too clean for some people's tastes). Solid state amps have been successful for bass, keyboard, and P.A. applications where you want something with a lot of power and headroom. There are more than a few tube bass amps, but many in bassdom either prefer solid state or are just not as pressed to get a tube amp.
My name is Stratplayer, and I'm a solid state user!
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/4/2007 9:01:51 PM
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I am also a current solid state user. I have a Randall RX120D, which is a great amp, even for the money. I can practice at home and, recently, I played a gig for a local charity at the high school stadium (not large, by any means but still an open air stadium) and it had plenty of "umph" to do what needed to be done without my having to run through a PA. To get the same rig in a tube head that was worth having would have been more than I could afford on the salary of a pastor of a rural church.
Would I rather have a tube amp? Yes. But putting a DigiTech Blues Screamer at the front of my effects chain (fter the wah) and it sounds almost as good.
Solid state amps can be junk, but if you kow what you're doing and have a good amp they can sound just as good while not killing your budget.
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/4/2007 10:07:17 PM
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I have a pair of small Charvell ss amps (one for guitar one for the bass) and they are very nice. You can always get a tube preamp if you want that smooth tube distortion but most pedals can give you a good approximation as well.
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/5/2007 7:46:58 PM
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I have both a tube amp and a solid-state amp. The solid-state was a recent purchase and it has a lot of different effects. The controls are easier to adjust to acheive the right sound. I do like the tube amp sound...but the modern solid-state amps do a fine job of replicating that.
The tube amp still has its place. I probably won't be parting with it anytime soon.
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/7/2007 12:19:58 PM
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I understand. When I quit playing years ago and sold my stuff (WARNING: Never, never sell your gear!) I got rid of two great Fender amps, including my beloved Bassman. I prefer tube amps myself, but I just can't afford them.
A good player can sound good on medicore equipment, but even the best won't help a bad one. I think we all agree on that.
But I do remember the magic that happened when those big 6L6s got hot....
....sigh....
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/7/2007 1:29:27 PM
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[Homer Simpson voice]Mmmmmm... 6L6's...[/Homer Simpson voice]
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/7/2007 1:57:23 PM
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Same with my cars.
Didn't mean to start a "ss" against "tube" thing.
Dude; your car uses vaccum tubes? I completely understand what you're saying. My only experience with a tube amp was a Classic 50 that I sold. I play lots of clean stuff and I was not that impressed with the clean chanel. And then I wasn't gettig that "verge clean" sount out of it either (your tone is basically clean but will overdrive when you dig into it or). I also couldn't get the drive chanel to clean up by backing down the guitar's volume. I now regret selling the amp, as I should have tried different tubes or speakers in it.
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/9/2007 4:26:08 PM
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I am sitting here listening to Robin Trower's Bridge of Sighs. I am salivating over that tone. The Uni-vibe sounds great. The playing is filled with passion; it's raw and wonderful. Another reason why I love Strats.
This got me to thinking. Why are there not more young players? Mostly all you get now is low-end pounding (noting wrong with it, but that's it) or half-baked, out of tune, ham-handed junk like Green Day. I know there are some younger players out there, but to look at the state of playing today it's kind of depressing. Everybody sounds the same. Don't get me wrong, I like heavy, but there's anly so much you can hear before it all sounds the same.
Sorry for the rant.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/9/2007 7:26:21 PM
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Hi all
I picked up my acoustic guitar recently after a long period of lack of motivation. I'd offered a few weeks ago to lead worship at my single's sunday school class. So I googled a few favorite worship songs with the chords, picked one, practiced a few days, & led worship with that song. I know worship went well because the others were singing (even if I was messing up some chord fingering.)
I got some library books on guitar instruction, thinking I could practice those chords to get my fingering back. Any other advice on practicing, keeping motivated, etc.? Thanks.
Knock knock - Anyone home?
I would appreciate thoughts and feedback here.
Just because I'm the only one without a lot of guitar equipment ...?
Thank you.
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RE: On The Down Low - Solid State Amps and the Men Who ... - 8/9/2007 7:32:21 PM
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This got me to thinking. Why are there not more young players? Mostly all you get now is low-end pounding (noting wrong with it, but that's it) or half-baked, out of tune, ham-handed junk like Green Day. I know there are some younger players out there, but to look at the state of playing today it's kind of depressing. Everybody sounds the same. Don't get me wrong, I like heavy, but there's anly so much you can hear before it all sounds the same.
Green Day is actually a pretty tight band, even if they aren't flashy. And given how big and radio-friendly they are, I don't know how you can say that they're out of tune, either.
-Dan.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/10/2007 12:11:22 PM
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quote:
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ORIGINAL: Bruce
Hi all
I picked up my acoustic guitar recently after a long period of lack of motivation. I'd offered a few weeks ago to lead worship at my single's sunday school class. So I googled a few favorite worship songs with the chords, picked one, practiced a few days, & led worship with that song. I know worship went well because the others were singing (even if I was messing up some chord fingering.)
I got some library books on guitar instruction, thinking I could practice those chords to get my fingering back. Any other advice on practicing, keeping motivated, etc.? Thanks.
Knock knock - Anyone home?
I would appreciate thoughts and feedback here.
Just because I'm the only one without a lot of guitar equipment ...?
Thank you.
I can only offer you this:
First: Motivation comes from within, basically. Call it God-given or via outside inspiration or what have you, the act of doing comes from you.
Either you are motivated to practice and learn or you are not. Books, videos and even an instructor can help lead, guide and give feedback but ultimately they can not push you like you can push yourself.
Second: Practice and learn complete songs. It's ok to pickup little pieces and licks from different sources but they're really worthless outside the context of a song so make yourself goals to learn and complete songs that you wish to learn...and be realistic about your goals. If your current skills are at the 3 or 4 chord level, don't go learning anything super complicated as it will probably discourage you.
Third: Always listen. The most important missing element from many players that I've seen/heard is their inability to actually use their ears.
Music is a means of communication and while speaking is part of communication, so is listening. Learn to listen to yourself and listen to others and appreciate the moments of silence as well as the moments of audible sound.
Fourth: Be expressive. Playing notes is easy. Playing music is not. Speaking in a droning monotone voice is, to me, annoying.
Speaking dynamically and with emotion is life-like.
Apply that to how you play.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/10/2007 2:04:23 PM
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Bruce
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Hey - an answer!
Thank you!!
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ORIGINAL: Bruce
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ORIGINAL: Bruce
Hi all
I picked up my acoustic guitar recently after a long period of lack of motivation. I'd offered a few weeks ago to lead worship at my single's sunday school class. So I googled a few favorite worship songs with the chords, picked one, practiced a few days, & led worship with that song. I know worship went well because the others were singing (even if I was messing up some chord fingering.)
I got some library books on guitar instruction, thinking I could practice those chords to get my fingering back. Any other advice on practicing, keeping motivated, etc.? Thanks.
Knock knock - Anyone home?
I would appreciate thoughts and feedback here.
Just because I'm the only one without a lot of guitar equipment ...?
Thank you.
I can only offer you this:
First: Motivation comes from within, basically. Call it God-given or via outside inspiration or what have you, the act of doing comes from you.
Either you are motivated to practice and learn or you are not. Books, videos and even an instructor can help lead, guide and give feedback but ultimately they can not push you like you can push yourself.
Second: Practice and learn complete songs. It's ok to pickup little pieces and licks from different sources but they're really worthless outside the context of a song so make yourself goals to learn and complete songs that you wish to learn...and be realistic about your goals. If your current skills are at the 3 or 4 chord level, don't go learning anything super complicated as it will probably discourage you.
Third: Always listen. The most important missing element from many players that I've seen/heard is their inability to actually use their ears.
Music is a means of communication and while speaking is part of communication, so is listening. Learn to listen to yourself and listen to others and appreciate the moments of silence as well as the moments of audible sound.
Fourth: Be expressive. Playing notes is easy. Playing music is not. Speaking in a droning monotone voice is, to me, annoying.
Speaking dynamically and with emotion is life-like.
Apply that to how you play.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/10/2007 2:08:11 PM
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Listen to a variety of stuff.
As to practicing, well, I'm a horrible example. I've got two bands going and I only play when we gig. Of course, I've been doing it a long time.
Starting out practice getting your chord transitions smooth and understand the chord structures. When you can do that, then move on to scales, notes and speed.
Many a "shredder" is totally useless in a band because they never got their foundations right.
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/11/2007 12:05:04 AM
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Or totally useless 'cuz they've got no one to play with... a band of one is hardly a band... even if you CAN play all the instruments. Why wasn't I born an octopus??? At least then I could play em simultaneously...
Seriously speaking, I live to learn more. My life revolves around my guitar and workbook. I've improved so much that my best friend who once said no one could teach themself to play well now admits that I'm better than he is. That's what I call motivation.
Course... I get full of myself when I'm sleepy. Night all!
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RE: Guitarists' Corner - 8/11/2007 10:04:08 AM
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Or totally useless 'cuz they've got no one to play with... a band of one is hardly a band... even if you CAN play all the instruments. Why wasn't I born an octopus??? At least then I could play em simultaneously...
Actually you can (despite lacking certain octopoidal attributes). Just get a looper or two, a mixer and some powered monitors and you're in business. It has been said that music is a converstion; like most other converstaions, it's more interesting when you're not conversating by your self.
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Seriously speaking, I live to learn more. My life revolves around my guitar and workbook. I've improved so much that my best friend who once said no one could teach themself to play well now admits that I'm better than he is .
He needs to get out more. I know lots of great musicians who are self taught. In fact, I am self taught and can play well (...at least that's what they tell me  ).
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