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Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, and Support (read OP for poll question)


Yes I did and currently use NFP
  26% (34)
No I did not and currently use NFP
  3% (5)
I do currently and am considering NFP
  10% (14)
I do not currently and am considering NFP
  31% (41)
I do currently and am NOT considering NFP
  3% (5)
I do not currently and am NOT considering NFP
  23% (31)


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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/1/2009 10:40:38 AM   
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Usually, but it can be longer than that before. I've had EWM a couple days before ovulation before. Each person is different.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/1/2009 1:47:24 PM   
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Question: EWM is usually within 24 hours of ovulation? Either before, after, or right on....right?!!?


not for me, not necessarily. Then again, my body doesn't like to follow rules. =)
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/3/2009 1:43:17 PM   
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Yeah, my body doesn't like to follow rules either.

How's this for NOT following the rules? Today is 6 days past O (according to FF) and I'm spotting. What on earth is going on with my body?!?!?
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/3/2009 1:54:06 PM   
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Implantation bleeding? Also, FF isn't necessarily right every time.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/3/2009 2:03:29 PM   
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It's possible. I *thought* O occured on day 14 (FF agreed up to a point, then changed it to day 17). A friend ran my temps/cervical fluid observations through Ovusoft (which tends to be a little more reliable IMO)....it said day 17 for O as well. It's CD 23 no matter which way you cut it though.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/4/2009 9:57:26 AM   
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Megan, Fertility Friend and others probably rely on cervical mucous quite a bit as well, not just temps. So if something conflicts (at least for my charts it does this) it tends to take the later sign, and use that. So, if I had a temp spike, but reported cervical mucous after the spike, it will weigh the reported signs, and tend to not say that it was on the day of the spike, but later. If I have mucous that seems fertile but no spike it tends to disregard it.... so I don't know. I think (for me) it's only easy to tell exactly when ovulation was if everything lines up just "right", you know? If something doesn't agree, then it's hard to say.

Either way, you can have spotting at any time during your cycle. You can have spotting "just because", or you can have it with implantation, you can have it with ovulation... and yes, even if it's not "normal" for you, it can become "normal" for you. About the only thing you can do is wait and see. It's really kind of hard to determine what the cause of something like spotting is until you wait and see if it correlates with anything else.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/5/2009 12:02:42 AM   
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I've had a steady 4-5 months now where I spot for a few days around CD 23-25, then have nothing until AF starts around CD 30. I've never had this happen before in my life. Its exceedingly irritating, and not ONCE has it been implantation spotting. Honestly, I wish I knew a way to make it stop.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/5/2009 9:54:10 AM   
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Stacy, have you been to your doctor for the spotting? Usually if it is continuous, there is a reason. For me, it was mid-cycle spotting (probably due to ovulation looking back at the situation) that made me seek medical care to begin with last year. I will be calling my doctor tomorrow as I need a refill on Metformin & I'll ask about the spotting then. Until AF shows or something else develops, it just seems like there are SO many things it COULD be...enough to drive a woman crazy! ((hugs))
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/6/2009 12:45:50 AM   
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Well here's hopping it is implantation bleeding DOF!!

So I am using fertility friend web site to help me track everything. Right now I am still on the VIP trial and they like to keep reminding me how many days of my trial that I have left.

Is the VIP edition worth paying for or do you find the basic edition enough? I am not sure all of the features that will be taken away when my trial is over. I guess I could just wait and see. I was just wondering if anyone pays for the VIP edition.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/6/2009 7:03:18 AM   
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I'm wondering about the differences between the trial and VIP on FF too. I have 3 days left of mine!
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/6/2009 9:33:10 AM   
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you'll find out what the differences are soon enough then. =)

I pay for my membership. I didn't for years, then I wanted some additional info so I paid for about 3 months, then I got sorta hooked from there. I've been paying since.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/6/2009 10:50:13 AM   
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If your going to actually pay for something why not just buy Ovusoft? It's $40 and you own the software, so it's good for however long you want to use it... I've been using mine off and on for 3 years now and it's still great. You get free upgrades when they update their software too.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 4/6/2009 2:13:28 PM   
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Trial vs. VIP on FF: you can't overlay your cycle, you can't be a part of Buddy groups, no analysis of whether the BDing was good timing or okay timing, etc. Those are a few of the differences I have noticed as I had the free VIP trial at one point, now I have the regular free version. I do want to invest in Ovusoft though.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/26/2009 4:25:54 PM   
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Does anybody else go by just mucus and cervix? We're going to start TTC and I can't find my thermometer. I started tracking before we got married only to find DH didn't want to rely on it for birth control, so I stopped. Are the temps more crucial for knowing that you are no longer fertile, or is there a reason you'd want to temp while TTC? It seems to me the every-second-day attempts would start when the right kind of mucus shows up anyhow. If I do start temping, there is no way I'm getting up at 6 am (my weekday wake-up time) just to take my temperature; I'd never get back to sleep.

I read TCOYF a few years ago, as well as a book on NFP, but don't remember much more than the basics. Checking my fluid and cervix has never bothered me since I've used a menstrual cup for years (the added advantage with checking the cervix is that you're more likely to spot any cervical abnormalities early on).

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/26/2009 5:53:15 PM   
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Jen, the reason for temping is that you will see a temperature rise, and be sustained, after ovulation.

You will have fertile seeming mucous before ovulation, that will dry up after ovulation. (assuming everything is working correctly with no underlying conditions to prevent any of that)

You could also try using ovulation predictor kit tests when you start to think you are having fertile seeming mucous. They would help you pin point it a bit. (theoretically)
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/26/2009 7:44:17 PM   
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I've been temping for over a year now (trying to avoid - and successful!), and we're considering TTC this fall. Personally, I don't think temping has a huge benefit when you already know you have fertile cervical fluid and you ovulate regularly. I think you should be fine going with that. However, if you haven't been in the habit of temping, I'd try for a month or two just to see where your body is at. Good luck!
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/26/2009 8:15:30 PM   
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I've always done only mucus/cervical changes. Temps are generally a double-check for the fluid signs and rise after ovulation signaling an end to fertility. Sometimes, it can be difficult to tell the fluid signals, and the temp would give another sign to watch.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/28/2009 1:15:21 AM   
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Tamps are also good for those of us who have screwed up bodies as far as CF goes... I get one day of copious creamy CF and and then it tapers off but I never dry up so charting is a good confirmation for me... We'll use OPK's as well this time around for TTC to work on timing things.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/28/2009 12:52:25 PM   
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yes, if I believed that my CF was always indicating what it was supposed to be indicating... well... I'd be confused for sure. =) I temp.
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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 6/29/2009 11:46:04 AM   
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Personally, I don't think temping has a huge benefit when you already know you have fertile cervical fluid and you ovulate regularly. I think you should be fine going with that. However, if you haven't been in the habit of temping, I'd try for a month or two just to see where your body is at.


I've also remembered that the other benefit of temping is that you see your temps fall before your period starts, or you see them not fall when you've conceived successfully. I seem to recall that it's an indicator which works much earlier than you might see a positive on a pregnancy test.

All this just convinces me that, even if I do take my temps a bit later on the weekend, I should at least start.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 7/7/2009 11:36:06 AM   
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I've always done only mucus/cervical changes. Temps are generally a double-check for the fluid signs and rise after ovulation signaling an end to fertility. Sometimes, it can be difficult to tell the fluid signals, and the temp would give another sign to watch.


Me too. I believe it's called the Billings method.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 7/7/2009 4:57:33 PM   
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For those of you who temp, do you have any trouble sleeping and if so, does that affect your temps?

I often wake up about an hour earlier than my alarm (regardless of the time it's set to) and then fall asleep again. I think you're supposed to check your temps after 3-4 hrs of sleep. Might that explain why my temps were all over the place and didn't match my cervical changes? (Eg my temps went up 3 days before I think I ovulated, and then didn't go up again when I did ovulate) Or are there other factors that can affect the cervix?

Also, has anybody ever barely any change in their fluid at all? My cervix changed, and I had wet vs dry, but never anything beyond a tiny bit of moisture. I used to have lots of the clear egg-white stuff before Oing. Maybe my body is still messed up from the miscarriage.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 7/7/2009 9:34:27 PM   
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I sometimes wake up before the alarm, but go back to sleep pretty quickly. It doesn't seem to affect my temps.

Medications can affect your fluid. Decongestants, for example, dry up your nasal fluid as well as your other fluid.

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 7/8/2009 10:05:23 AM   
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For those of you who temp, do you have any trouble sleeping and if so, does that affect your temps?

I often wake up about an hour earlier than my alarm (regardless of the time it's set to) and then fall asleep again. I think you're supposed to check your temps after 3-4 hrs of sleep. Might that explain why my temps were all over the place and didn't match my cervical changes? (Eg my temps went up 3 days before I think I ovulated, and then didn't go up again when I did ovulate) Or are there other factors that can affect the cervix?

Also, has anybody ever barely any change in their fluid at all? My cervix changed, and I had wet vs dry, but never anything beyond a tiny bit of moisture. I used to have lots of the clear egg-white stuff before Oing. Maybe my body is still messed up from the miscarriage.


I never had issues if I woke up a couple hours before my alarm, as long as I stayed in bed and rested.

The miscarriage could be affecting your ovulation. How long has it been?

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RE: Natural Family Planning ---- Questions, Answers, an... - 7/8/2009 11:08:04 AM   
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It's been 5 mos, 4 cycles. It was a late miscarriage at 19 wks with two D&Cs so they told us we had to wait this long. I just assumed that the hormones would be out of my system by the time they told us it would be safe to TTC again.

This is the first cycle we're TTC and unfortunately it didn't occur to me to start tracking fertility signs until this cycle. I've noticed other changes with my cycle as well, eg no spotting, shorter, fewer heavy days. My doctor said that whatever I'm getting after 3 mos is probably my "new normal."

Decongestants aren't the culprits; I've been avoiding those since we started TTC again. I do have allergies though, so maybe my body is so busy producing stuff for my nose that it doesn't have time to produce cervical fluid. I also think I wasn't getting as much water in during the last two weeks, so maybe that had an effect as well.

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