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Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 11:49:04 AM   
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I don't know if I'm out of my depth for asking this, or looking stupid, or what have you, but I'm gonna ask it anyway.

What is the general "highest note" your average tenor can sing?

I am not looking for the highest tenor out there; I am looking for the average "high tenor note" that pretty much any tenor can hit.

The reason I am wondering is that I have some recordings where the guy singing tenor doesn't really sound like he's going all that high. I am a baritone/low lead but I can sing along with Joe Bonsall or Marty Hurt of older CrossWay recordings note for note. I would call Joe Bonsall a high lead, not a tenor, but that's what he sings for the Oaks.

So, what kind of note would a singer have to be able to hit before you could call him a tenor? High A? High C?
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 2:33:34 PM   
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I would say that a good average for most southern gospel tenors would be a high C. Most can hit notes higher than this, but I think most sound more solid and natural in this range.
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 3:06:09 PM   
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I would say that a good average for most southern gospel tenors would be a high C. Most can hit notes higher than this, but I think most sound more solid and natural in this range.


I agree with that.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 3:42:45 PM   
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I have to agree. Virtually any professional Southern Gospel tenor can hit a high C.

I would add that most but not all pro SG tenors can sing up to E-flat, at least a few a night. (More than that would cause undue strain on their voices for most tenors. A few freaks of nature can do it all night, song after song!)

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 4:33:48 PM   
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What would you say Bill Baize is capable of these days? I know he used to get close to the F back in the 70's.
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 4:40:02 PM   
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I may be mistaken, and I usually don't even try to determine how high or low someone sings but I think Bill Baize got pretty close to a high C on the Prophets new CD.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 5:09:14 PM   
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I have to agree. Virtually any professional Southern Gospel tenor can hit a high C.

I would add that most but not all pro SG tenors can sing up to E-flat, at least a few a night. (More than that would cause undue strain on their voices for most tenors. A few freaks of nature can do it all night, song after song!)

Like Jeremy Peace?

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 5:10:54 PM   
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I have to agree. Virtually any professional Southern Gospel tenor can hit a high C.

I would add that most but not all pro SG tenors can sing up to E-flat, at least a few a night. (More than that would cause undue strain on their voices for most tenors. A few freaks of nature can do it all night, song after song!)

Like Jeremy Peace?


I don't think I would have worded lt like that. But Jeremy does have the ability to hit those high notes night after night. But then again he is still young. As he ages he will probably not be able to do it consistently.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 5:13:09 PM   
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I have to agree. Virtually any professional Southern Gospel tenor can hit a high C.

I would add that most but not all pro SG tenors can sing up to E-flat, at least a few a night. (More than that would cause undue strain on their voices for most tenors. A few freaks of nature can do it all night, song after song!)

Like Jeremy Peace?


I don't think I would have worded lt like that. But Jeremy does have the ability to hit those high notes night after night. But then again he is still young. As he ages he will probably not be able to do it consistently.

It's all good. Jeremy is a friend.....he's one in a million.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 5:23:36 PM   
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I have to agree. Virtually any professional Southern Gospel tenor can hit a high C.

I would add that most but not all pro SG tenors can sing up to E-flat, at least a few a night. (More than that would cause undue strain on their voices for most tenors. A few freaks of nature can do it all night, song after song!)

Like Jeremy Peace?


I don't think I would have worded lt like that. But Jeremy does have the ability to hit those high notes night after night. But then again he is still young. As he ages he will probably not be able to do it consistently.

It's all good. Jeremy is a friend.....he's one in a million.


I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 5:30:29 PM   
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I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

I knew what you meant. I think I said that to him when I found out he can sing BASS too.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 6:00:37 PM   
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Can anyone remember the note Bill Baize hit at the end of "I Can Call Jesus" from the new Prophets CD?
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 7:02:44 PM   
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Can anyone remember the note Bill Baize hit at the end of "I Can Call Jesus" from the new Prophets CD?


I believe I answered that a while back. I think he hit a high C.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 7:02:53 PM   
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I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

I knew what you meant. I think I said that to him when I found out he can sing BASS too.

No. NO!
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 7:06:06 PM   
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I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

I knew what you meant. I think I said that to him when I found out he can sing BASS too.

No. NO!


If the No No is about Jeremy singing bass I have heard him do it also. They do a song where the bass and the tenor swap parts. The bass doing the tenor is not real hot but Jeremy hits some pretty low bass notes.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 7:12:07 PM   
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I see a tenor on line that can hit very high notes. How high can you get Jeremy?

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 7:18:57 PM   
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Bobby I don't know how High Jeremy can get but I had to get a ladder just to listen to him.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 7:54:08 PM   
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He gets up there on 'Look For Me At Jesus Feet'.
Squire Parsons wrote the song when he was with the Kingsmen I believe and Jeremy has sang with the Kingsmen so he knows how it's done.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 8:12:35 PM   
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Yep I listen to it at least two time a day.

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 10:29:59 PM   
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I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

I knew what you meant. I think I said that to him when I found out he can sing BASS too.

No. NO!


If the No No is about Jeremy singing bass I have heard him do it also. They do a song where the bass and the tenor swap parts. The bass doing the tenor is not real hot but Jeremy hits some pretty low bass notes.

It was, and it is because I have heard Jeremy sing many times and....if there's a bass in there, then he is not human.
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/1/2008 11:12:34 PM   
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The reason I am wondering is that I have some recordings where the guy singing tenor doesn't really sound like he's going all that high. I am a baritone/low lead but I can sing along with Joe Bonsall or Marty Hurt of older CrossWay recordings note for note. I would call Joe Bonsall a high lead, not a tenor, but that's what he sings for the Oaks.



The Oaks have a true baritone in William Lee Golden who can comfortably hit notes an octave plus a few half steps below middle C. Duane Allen has a remarkable range. I'm pretty sure he sings tenor above Joe Bonsall when Joe has the melody, at least part of the time. And then, they have a bass singer Richard Sterban who can put a solid foundation an octave beneath the rest of the guys. It's a bright, powerful tone they create when singing together, and the way they sing their vowels gives them a sound that is instantly recognizable.

As a group, the average pitches sung by the Oaks in the course of a concert range a good two-thirds of an octave below a group like Gold City, where the baritone is really a lead, and the lead is a borderline tenor.

You may also note that the Oaks don't change members nearly as often.

If you apply to sing for a typical professional SG group, though, you better have that "high C" (C above middle C) every night, because that's just where some of the arrangements are pitched. Otherwise, your career in SG at the professional level will likely be no longer than Kurt Young's!

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/2/2008 7:19:36 AM   
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I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

I knew what you meant. I think I said that to him when I found out he can sing BASS too.

No. NO!


If the No No is about Jeremy singing bass I have heard him do it also. They do a song where the bass and the tenor swap parts. The bass doing the tenor is not real hot but Jeremy hits some pretty low bass notes.

It was, and it is because I have heard Jeremy sing many times and....if there's a bass in there, then he is not human.


There is a bass in there.

Watch this, especially around 3:33 and on, then tell me if you think Jeremy's human: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS118_-Qelg



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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/2/2008 7:22:50 AM   
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Bobby I don't know how High Jeremy can get but I had to get a ladder just to listen to him.


I asked him one time about a high note on one of his songs and he said it was a double high C. Being an alto, I can't even think that high!!

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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/2/2008 9:25:25 AM   
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I agree about Jeremy. I was referring to the bold part above your post.

I knew what you meant. I think I said that to him when I found out he can sing BASS too.

No. NO!


If the No No is about Jeremy singing bass I have heard him do it also. They do a song where the bass and the tenor swap parts. The bass doing the tenor is not real hot but Jeremy hits some pretty low bass notes.

It was, and it is because I have heard Jeremy sing many times and....if there's a bass in there, then he is not human.


There is a bass in there.

Watch this, especially around 3:33 and on, then tell me if you think Jeremy's human: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS118_-Qelg



Just to let you know I mean that as a compliment, roughly the same way I say that David Phelps is not human.

There are plenty of people who claim to be able to sing "all four parts" when in reality they can't sing any of them. When I hear a guy who actually CAN do that, I find it amazing!
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RE: Question: What's a "tenor note?" - 12/2/2008 9:32:16 AM   
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Bobby I don't know how High Jeremy can get but I had to get a ladder just to listen to him.


I asked him one time about a high note on one of his songs and he said it was a double high C. Being an alto, I can't even think that high!!


I can think that high, even if I can't hit the note. (The note Eric Phillips hits on Glory Road is my max, but it doesn't sound good when I'm doing it.) It's the low bass end where I have a problem thinking the notes.

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