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I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/30/2009 2:26:42 PM   
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I'm not using as a replacement for fitness. I work out. I just have a husband that stocks the fridge full of yummy, greasy, salty food. He can do it. He is 6'5" tall. I'm 5'4" and I already have a hard enough time not finishing what my son doesn't eat when I make him food.

Tis the season when the candy and cookies are all around. I was taking a supplement right before my son was born that pretty much took the edge off so these foods were easier to say no to. I forgot what it was called. I lost the bottle while I was pregnant. I have 10lbs to lose and all I need is little extra help. I'm working out and doing a pretty good job of saying "no" to my night time cravings, but it is so hard. Any suggestions? Hoodia worked for a bit but lost its effectiveness. :(
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/30/2009 4:54:47 PM   
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I used to be so guilty of snacking on junky stuff. Chocolate is it's own food group! I worked with a dietitian this past summer. He had me come up with four columns--whole grain, fruits/veges, protein, and "misses" (junk foods). For each meal, I was to have somethign from each of the first three columns. For snacks (up to two), I was to ahve something from two columns. "Misses" were not forbidden, just to be limited.

I found that with a food plan in place, I wasn't tempted to snack on the junky stuff. Oh, I still love chocolate. I just don't crave it as much as before.

I'd go with a healthier eating plan than popping some suppliment.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/30/2009 5:56:02 PM   
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I just have a husband that stocks the fridge full of yummy, greasy, salty food. He can do it. He is 6'5" tall.
He can do it? With respect, eating a lot of 'yummy, greasy, salty food' isn't something that many people 'can do'. They may look ok, but that doesn't mean that they are and it doesn't mean that their long-term health isn't being affected by what they eat now.
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I found that with a food plan in place, I wasn't tempted to snack on the junky stuff. Oh, I still love chocolate. I just don't crave it as much as before.
I totally agree. There are a lot of things that you can change in your diet that will help with cravings. I eat dark chocolate when I have a craving for some. I eat less of it than I do milk but it does the trick. You need to look at ways you can make changes to eating foods that are less harmful to your body (and your dh's) but still yummy.
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I'd go with a healthier eating plan than popping some suppliment.
Me too.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/30/2009 6:18:36 PM   
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I'd suggest planning on snacking on something else entirely in the evenings - that should in itself knock the cravings on the head. Something simple - like a mug of soup - should do it. That will both fill you up and nourish you.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/30/2009 7:08:13 PM   
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Protein. Protein, gram by gram provide more satiety for a longer time then carbohydrates.

Eat more frequently of smaller portions, to get your insulin level more constant.

Reduce the consumption of processed simple carbohydrates, such as pure sugar, cakes, cheap breads, jams, chocolate, candy, and soft drinks.
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/30/2009 11:57:59 PM   
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Lorilynn

I'd suggest planning on snacking on something else entirely in the evenings - that should in itself knock the cravings on the head. Something simple - like a mug of soup - should do it. That will both fill you up and nourish you.


Oh manda if that only worked. It is absolutely the right advice but I've been there, done that. The funny thing is after telling myself "don't you dare eat those Doritos or DQ Blizzard at 10PM" the cup of soup or in my case spinach salad is so much more of a let down. Maybe if I switch the bags (put my spinach in the Doritos bag and visa versa) the spinach will be more satisfying.

I know I can do it without a supplement, I just know I had one that worked at one time.

It is difficult as you all know. I live with the fast food king. I said 'no' to Taco Bell (my fav) tonight. He sat and ate it in front of me. I made a lean cuisine. So I know I can do it. The supplements just gave me extra nutrition and knocked my cravings out. A few almonds at night have helped, too.
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 5:39:43 AM   
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I live with the fast food king. I said 'no' to Taco Bell (my fav) tonight. He sat and ate it in front of me.
Perhaps you are being too strict with yourself. To exclude everything that you enjoy, in order to eat something 'healthy' is very often a recipe for failure. Allowing yourself some treats now and again often helps people maintain their goals.

There's a rule that is used by some in dietint. It is the 80/20 rule ~ 80% of the time, you eat well and healthily and 20% of the time you allow yourself something less health, that you like. You could have, if you wanted, had something small from Taco Bell and had a large salad with it, to help fill you up.

I wonder if you're eating foods in the right quantities. Are you perhaps cutting out complete food groups (many people will cut out carbs and/or dairy)? If so, you need to look at what you're eating so that you don't deprive yourself of the nutrients in these foods. It's not the carbs or the dairy that is bad for us, it's the amount and type of carbs and dairy that we eat. White bread, rice, pasta, chips, etc aren't going to do a lot for us. Wholegrain bread, brown rice and pasta, baked potatoes etc are better (obviously it depends on what you load them with).

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 11:39:43 AM   
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Oh manda if that only worked. It is absolutely the right advice but I've been there, done that. The funny thing is after telling myself "don't you dare eat those Doritos or DQ Blizzard at 10PM" the cup of soup or in my case spinach salad is so much more of a let down.



Lorilynn

I was totally serious about actually having soup, even if it's an instant "in a mug" soup (over here the brand is called Cup-A-Soup). I've seen scientific trials done on TV which proved that people who have soup before a meal feel fuller and gain more nutrition than people who eat just a meal, even a larger meal. There is something about the warm liquid and the nutrition making our gut/system behave differently. Besides, on a chilly night, doesn't soup sound nicer and more warming? I don't like many soups, I have to say, but I do love tomato (canned or packet) so that's what I usually have. And sometimes a slice of wholemeal (wholewheat) toast with it. It honestly is really filling.

The other thing you can nibble along with your almonds is a few dried apricots - just a few though, 4-6 maximum. They're a good source of calcium and fibre, so will also help you feel full.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 2:33:53 PM   
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Oh manda if that only worked. It is absolutely the right advice but I've been there, done that. The funny thing is after telling myself "don't you dare eat those Doritos or DQ Blizzard at 10PM" the cup of soup or in my case spinach salad is so much more of a let down.



Lorilynn

I was totally serious about actually having soup, even if it's an instant "in a mug" soup (over here the brand is called Cup-A-Soup). I've seen scientific trials done on TV which proved that people who have soup before a meal feel fuller and gain more nutrition than people who eat just a meal, even a larger meal. There is something about the warm liquid and the nutrition making our gut/system behave differently. Besides, on a chilly night, doesn't soup sound nicer and more warming? I don't like many soups, I have to say, but I do love tomato (canned or packet) so that's what I usually have. And sometimes a slice of wholemeal (wholewheat) toast with it. It honestly is really filling.

The other thing you can nibble along with your almonds is a few dried apricots - just a few though, 4-6 maximum. They're a good source of calcium and fibre, so will also help you feel full.


Really? I never heard that. Hmmm. I think I'll give that a try. It is so cold today soup actually sounds yummy. Thanks!
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 3:44:34 PM   
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I agree with what Manda has said about soup.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 5:43:17 PM   
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I need a supplement that knocks out cravings


I don't think such a thing exists. If it did, they wouldn't be able to keep it in stock!

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 10:19:18 PM   
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You've got to watch how much and what type of soup you eat though. Many soups are loaded with sodium -- as much as 50% of your daily allowance -- and while I don't dispute that they could be helpful if reducing cravings, too much salt in the diet isn't great either. There are reduced sodium soups, though even those aren't exactly "low" either.

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It is difficult as you all know. I live with the fast food king. I said 'no' to Taco Bell (my fav) tonight. He sat and ate it in front of me. I made a lean cuisine. So I know I can do it. The supplements just gave me extra nutrition and knocked my cravings out. A few almonds at night have helped, too.


I used to eat Lean Cuisine, but found that they just weren't satisfying enough to last me to the next meal time. I actually did better once I went on to the traditional meat and two veg meals I made myself.
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 10/31/2009 10:56:10 PM   
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You've got to watch how much and what type of soup you eat though. Many soups are loaded with sodium -- as much as 50% of your daily allowance -- and while I don't dispute that they could be helpful if reducing cravings, too much salt in the diet isn't great either. There are reduced sodium soups, though even those aren't exactly "low" either.



Well my Cup-A-Soups contain 0.54g sodium, that's 1.30g equivalent of salt - and IMO that's just fine.

And what "too much salt" constitutes is an individual thing - I have low blood pressure so a little bit extra salt is not bad for me anyway.

Besides, if having a slightly salty soup reduces cravings for much saltier, fattier foods, I personally think that's a good trade.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/1/2009 10:31:40 AM   
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I'm in the process of making some soup. So far, it has no added salt. I'll probably need to add a bit further down the line but it's packed with herbs, spices. ginger and garlic so it won't need much.

I do think we need to take care, but as long as we take the salt (and, with some soups, sugar) content into account we'll be ok.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/1/2009 10:36:24 AM   
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Sometimes cravings are an indication that your body is missing something.

If you can tape or have time to watch dr oz - he has very good and practical ideas about eating healthy..he had a woman on there that was a sugar addict and had huge sugar cravings - he got her off it and she felt great in a month.
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/7/2009 3:35:36 AM   
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I once had a prescription medication knock out my food cravings inadvertently. It was so cool while it lasted. Topamax is an anti-epileptic med also used to prevent migraines. It didn't work to prevent my migraines and it made my ears ring. So I ended up on a different migraine preventive drug that makes me gain weight.
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/10/2009 12:51:41 AM   
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Miss Giggles is right.

Fats are a very good example. Our body needs it to function properly. It's essential to consume fats and when our body needs more of it, it will crave it. The problem lies with the kind of fats we consume. Healthy, unsaturated fats are what we NEED. We make the mistake of eating the bad fats instead. Because of this, your body will continue to crave the good fats. Once you satisfy that need with the correct fats, our cravings will slowly diminish.

Do the research on good fats. Cook with healthier oils. Fish is the best protein but if you don't like fish, you can buy fish oil supplements. I love fish but still take the supplements.

Another big culprit is sugar. When eaten in large amounts (which doesn't take much really) it converts into fat. Sugar is also said to affect the brain so it is classified as an addictive "substance". You can actually get withdrawal symptoms when you cut out most sugar from your diet. And if you are going to eat the sweets, then the natural form is better. Natural sugar from fruits, honey, etc... is best. Natural sugars don't convert to fat as quickly as processed ones.

Fine and processed foods also contribute to cravings. Unfortunately I love processed foods like hot dogs and such. So what I try to do is eat them only sometimes and when I do, buy the ones at the health food store. Expensive, but they don't contain nitrates or chemicals that are typically bad for you. I could end of eating them less anyway since it is expensive. It's hard though. lol

Last advice...Spend a certain amount of time banning certain foods from your diet for two weeks to a month. Let your body go through a withdrawal and you will find that it is harder to go back to them. Sugar and salt is a good example. If you cut them out dramatically for at least two weeks to a month and all of a sudden eat them? Things that normally taste good to you will all of a sudden be too sweet or too salty to your tastebud.


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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 10:41:49 AM   
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For me, I don't understand the "all or nothing" plan. If I have a craving, then I partake of it...just not to an extreme. For example, if I crave chocolate, then I eat one hershey's kiss (or something similar) and enjoy that moment. The rest is self-control and a good thing for me to be working on.

I found if I deprive myself of all sweets, etc. then I become a Pharisee about it and not a fun person to be around. Moderation in all things.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 11:08:15 AM   
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Just a minor side note - bad fats are no longer "bad". Recent studies seem to indicate that we need these "bad" fats, albeit in moderation.

I wonder when we will learn not to try to correct what God has created, and pretend we actually know more...

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 1:51:55 PM   
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No one is saying that we need to correct what G-d has created nor pretending to know more. It is basic wisdom. Most bad fats have not been created by G-d but by man. Most bad fats are processed and it is these processed fats that are addictive. If it is addictive then it makes it difficult to have in moderation.

I'd also like to see these studies claiming that we need bad fats (whether in moderation or not) and what they define as "bad fats".


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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 2:22:12 PM   
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No one is saying that we need to correct what G-d has created nor pretending to know more. It is basic wisdom. Most bad fats have not been created by G-d but by man. Most bad fats are processed and it is these processed fats that are addictive. If it is addictive then it makes it difficult to have in moderation.

I'd also like to see these studies claiming that we need bad fats (whether in moderation or not) and what they define as "bad fats".



Yeah, me too.

We are not at all anti-fat, except for processed stuff. We consume plenty of butter, EVOO, coconut oil, bacon grease, avocado, and other sources of animal and plant fats. Fats keep you from starving and help your body to absorb nutrients.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 3:00:16 PM   
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Fatty Acid Metabolism is Involved in Stress Resistance Mechanisms of Caenorhabditis elegans
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19896458?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=6

Dietary fats, cerebrovasculature integrity and Alzheimer's disease risk
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19896503?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=5

Trans fatty acids (tFA): sources and intake levels, biological effects and content in commercial Spanish food
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19893860?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=9

Acute Ingestion of Long-Chain (n-3) Polyunsaturated Fatty Acids Decreases Fibrinolysis in Men with Metabolic Syndrome
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19889809?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=10

Hypothalamic inflammation and energy homeostasis: Resolving the paradox

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19822168?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=40

The point is, as Mrs.Wifey said - fat is essential to our existence. For example many vitamins are fat-only soluble. Some of the trans fats, like conjugated linoleic acid seem to be beneficial for us in some instances.

Yes, don't dip your face in a bucket of lard for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. But, that goes for pretty much anything. One can die from eating too much of a good thing too .
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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 3:16:08 PM   
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Again, no one claimed that fat was non-essential. It's the unhealthy processed fats that we have to look out for. I repeat, processed. Most of the articles you linked above are considered good fats, not bad ones (with the exception of trans fatty. I disagree with that one). The research for the most part is not completely new.

And you also have to weigh the sum of its parts so-to-speak. Moderation is not always easy to practice (this thread is after all is about cravings right?) So if moderation is an issue for someone, the risks of high trans fatty acids for example far outweigh the benefits (the West has the highest rates of obesity for a reason). If you are going to eat more than moderated amount of fats, there are still the best of the best fats one should consider.


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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 3:39:28 PM   
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I have to be very self discplined because moderation is just not in my nature. If I am not, I will start to obsess over food. Not a good thing. I know people that are the opposite. You gotta go with what works. That being said, I cook with butter and olive oil. Olive oil more often but my main focus is to eat more whole food less processed.

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RE: I need a supplement that knocks out cravings - 11/11/2009 4:38:50 PM   
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LovemyAdonai, you can also drink water between meals. Sometimes that tampers hunger for a short period.

Ok, Ariella.... There is an attempt to defend something that no one is opposing... If we re-read the thread we are reasonably close. Maybe your word usage took me aback, triggering the reminder regarding the articles. Either way, next...
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