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Is this what Barack Obama supporters voted for? Is this the first of the many "change (s)" he forgot to tell you about? Is this really okay with you all?

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ORIGINAL: rlj

I see nothing in the link to the Global Poverty Act that has anything to do with 1, 2, 3 and 4 on your list. The Citizens link you provided doesn't have anything on their main page that I can find to look this up. I looked up the UN Millenium Goals to and haven't seen the 4 things I highlighted.

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A BILL
To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

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What will be interesting is to see how Republicans respond to it. Are they going to sit around and wait for Obama to fall flat on his face? Or will they show some leadership and spine

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ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady

Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Legislation would aim to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
"With billions of people living on just dollars a day around the world, global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges and tragedies the international community faces," said Senator Obama. "It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter, and clean drinking water. As we strive to rebuild America's standing in the world, this important bill will demonstrate our promise and commitment to those in the developing world. Our commitment to the global economy must extend beyond trade agreements that are more about increasing corporate profits than about helping workers and small farmers everywhere. I commend Chairman Biden and Ranking Member Lugar for supporting this bill and moving it forward quickly."

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ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady

BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON....

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text

SENATE BILL S. 2433 THE GLOBAL POVERTY ACT

According to David Bossie, President of the group 'Citizens United for
American Sovereignty', based out of Merrifield Virginia , website
http://www.citizensunited.org/

The above-mentioned Senate Bill (S. 2433) is a piece of legislation in the works that all Americans need to know about and know now!

This bill, sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama, with the backing of Joe Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, and liberal democrats in Congress, is nothing short of a massive giveaway of American wealth around the world, and a betrayal of the public trust. If passed, this bill would give over many aspects of our sovereignty to the United Nations.

The noble sounding name of this bill, 'The Global Poverty Act' is actually a Global Tax, payable to the United Nations, that will be required of all American taxpayers. The House has already passed this. If passed in the Senate, this bill would require the U.S. to increase our foreign aid by $65 BILLION per year, or $845 BILLION over the next 13 years! That's on top of the billions of dollars in foreign aid we already pay out!

In addition to the economic burdens this potential law would place on our precarious economy, the bill, if passed in the Senate, would also endanger our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms by obligating us to meet certain United Nations mandates.

According to President-Elect Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U.S. spending. What are they?
1. The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the
power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any
protection from the U.S. Constitution.

2. A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.

3. A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

4. The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and
numerous other anti-American measures.

Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen. Joe Biden sits) approved this plan by a voice vote without any discussion! Why all the secrecy? If Senators Obama and Biden are so proud of this legislation, then why don't they bring it out into the light of day and let the American people have a look at it instead of hiding it behind closed doors and sneaking it through Congress for late night votes.

It may be only a matter of time before this dangerous legislation reaches a floor vote in the full body of the Senate.

Is this what Barack Obama supporters voted for? Is this the first of the many "change (s)" he forgot to tell you about? Is this really okay with you all?

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ORIGINAL: HighPlainsDrifter

Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and get the U.S. out of the U.N.

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ORIGINAL: TaoPoohBear
Millennium Development Goals
Sounds pretty Christian to me!

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ORIGINAL: Dancre
Oh, now Pat, we'll just tax the rich even more that way everyone in the world can have a piece of the pie and like the lazy americans, they too can sit and eat bon-bons all day. Honestly, don't these people realize if they get rid of the wars, the crazy leaders ruling the 3rd world countries and create jobs for those in the 3rd world, we wouldn't HAVE poverty. Oi!! Libs. If only they'd use their brains instead of their emotions.

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It’s the poor people, the have-nots of America, who enlist and get sent to foreign countries to fight wars and promote democracy under false pretenses - disguised with words like duty, sacrifice, and patriotism. We are the burden bearers of this society. This nation’s dirty work is done by our hands and it sits on our conscience.

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ORIGINAL: Bettawrekonize
The gap between the rich and the poor is growing and I don't think laziness of poor people is the cause (actually, I would argue it's a lack of rebellion against rich special interest groups that act unethically and that manipulate the government in an unethical manner).
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If the poor people are so lazy, then explain to me, why is it that the poor people are the ones fighting this war?

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ORIGINAL: _jjp_
First off we understand that you hate any big business

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ORIGINAL: SonInMe1
I have a revelation for you.......rich people by the fact they have money does not make them evil.

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ORIGINAL: huangshan
The act of voting is "manipulating the government". Making a dumb vote is doing something contrary to the well-being of the American people.

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ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady

Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Legislation would aim to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015
WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senators Barack Obama (D-IL), Chuck Hagel (R-NE), and Maria Cantwell (D-WA) and Congressman Adam Smith (D-WA) today hailed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's passage of the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), which requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive policy to cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief, and coordination with the international community, businesses and NGOs. This legislation was introduced in December. Smith and Congressman Spencer Bachus (R-AL) sponsored the House version of the bill (H.R. 1302), which passed the House last September.
"With billions of people living on just dollars a day around the world, global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges and tragedies the international community faces," said Senator Obama. "It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter, and clean drinking water. As we strive to rebuild America's standing in the world, this important bill will demonstrate our promise and commitment to those in the developing world. Our commitment to the global economy must extend beyond trade agreements that are more about increasing corporate profits than about helping workers and small farmers everywhere. I commend Chairman Biden and Ranking Member Lugar for supporting this bill and moving it forward quickly."

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What an evil guy, trying to help all those poor people. He should be ashamed of himself!

-Dan.

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“But I’ll tell you what it really has proven to me, Larry, is that these guys, after all of that stuff they’ve been telling us all these years about go capitalism, free market, free enterprise, they don’t believe in any of that,” Moore said. “They don’t believe in free enterprise or a free market.”


“They want – they want socialism for themselves,” Moore added. “They want a handout and a net for themselves – [forget] everybody else, but give it to them. And I think, really, what we’re seeing here right now with them, with the banks, we’re seeing the end of capitalism – the end of capitalism as we know it.”

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ORIGINAL: Bettawrekonize
The gap between the rich and the poor is growing and I don't think laziness of poor people is the cause (actually, I would argue it's a lack of rebellion against rich special interest groups that act unethically and that manipulate the government in an unethical manner).
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If the poor people are so lazy, then explain to me, why is it that the poor people are the ones fighting this war?

First off we understand that you hate any big business, you have made that abundantly clear so I take your ranting with a grain of salt. I could give you a tour of the laziness that keeps many of the poor in the poor house in any number of towns and cities in sourthern louisiana. I could show you people sitting on their front porches drinking beer all day complaining that they can't find a job. When you need a job the job hunt should be your 8-10 hour/day job but i could show you hundreds of people in a single neighborhood who sit around waiting for their checks.

"poor" people are in the military but as your article that you posted states the middle class makes up most of the military.

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“But I’ll tell you what it really has proven to me, Larry, is that these guys, after all of that stuff they’ve been telling us all these years about go capitalism, free market, free enterprise, they don’t believe in any of that,” Moore said. “They don’t believe in free enterprise or a free market.”


“They want – they want socialism for themselves,” Moore added. “They want a handout and a net for themselves – [forget] everybody else, but give it to them. And I think, really, what we’re seeing here right now with them, with the banks, we’re seeing the end of capitalism – the end of capitalism as we know it.”

Michael Moore Proposes Gov't Takeover of Autos; Good Riddance to Capitalism

I agree, these rich entities aren't interested in free enterprise, etc... They want freedoms for themselves, but they want to take away freedoms from the American people. They don't want the American people to have the freedom not to fund them if they choose not to. I'm all for free markets, etc... but that includes our ability to exercise our right not to fund an entity and to allow that entity to fail without having the government mandate that we fund them (ie: via bail outs or eliminating the competition by taking away our health freedoms, etc...).

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Great!! Then lets all become communists!! Then the gov can tell you where to work, where to live, what to worship, what to eat, wear to work, everything. No more raises, no more choices on where to work, no more nice house, nice stuff, nothing. Instead, you get to live in a tiny apt with a tiny car and no money to buy stuff. Sorry, but communisim is a proven failure. As I said, I'm grateful for the rich. They keep this economy going. But if you don't like it here, then move to Cuba. See how well they are working. :)

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According to President-Elect Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U.S. spending. What are they?
1. The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the
power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any
protection from the U.S. Constitution.

2. A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.

3. A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.

4. The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and
numerous other anti-American measures.

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ORIGINAL: Dancre
Great!! Then lets all become communists!! Then the gov can tell you where to work, where to live, what to worship, what to eat, wear to work, everything. No more raises, no more choices on where to work, no more nice house, nice stuff, nothing. Instead, you get to live in a tiny apt with a tiny car and no money to buy stuff. As I said, I'm grateful for the rich. They keep this economy going. But if you don't like it here, then move to Cuba. See how well they are working. :)

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Sorry, but communisim is a proven failure.

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As I said, I'm grateful for the rich. They keep this economy going.

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But if you don't like it here, then move to Cuba. See how well they are working. :)