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Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 7:19:20 PM
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TheBibleTRUTH
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God put it on my heart to share something with you guys that is extremely important.
Most people refer to Jesus Christ as just "Jesus". This is not giving Christ his due respect and is not giving him the title that he rightfully earned by being a perfect man and buying us back from the clutches of sin and death.
After the Day of Pentecost he is almost always given some sort of exalted title. Jesus Christ, Christ Jesus, Holy Child Jesus, Lord Jesus, etc. The only time it stands alone as Jesus pertaining to the ministry of God's people is when they are talking about how he was a man, was crucified, and then resurrected.
Acts 2:22
22) Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
It looks as if he is going to call him by only his name Jesus without his exalted title. But if you keep reading to the end of Peters teaching, he gives Christ his due reverence.
Acts 2:23; 36
23)Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
36)Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
He ends his explanation of what happened with Christ by giving him his due exaltation, the name of Christ.
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Throughout all Acts (after the Day of Pentecost) and the Church epistles he is almost always given an exalted title and is not called simply "Jesus." In fact, there are several occasions of only the name "Jesus" in Acts and they all are in a negative connotation.
Acts 4:1-3 - The Sadducees were grieved because they were preaching "Jesus." Used negatively. Further down in verse 10, he is given his exalted title by Peter, a true man of God.
Acts 4:18 - They commanded them to not teach or speak of Jesus. Used here without the exalted title in a negative connotation.
Acts 5:40 - Again commanding them not to speak the name of Jesus. Used here without the exalted title in a negative connotation.
Acts 19:13-17 - Vagabond Jews trying to cast out a devil spirit in the name of "Jesus." They were overtaken by the man with the spirit. In other places healing and spirits are cast out in the name of Jesus Christ.
Acts 25:1-20 - Festus does not believe the teachings of Paul, refers to Christ as simply "Jesus" in his unbelief.
These are only a few of the times when the name of Jesus is used in a negative manner. Many times if it looks as if it's going to be used alone, the context supplies his reverence with his relationship to God, his crucifixion and resurrection, or is given to him in verses that are following the one where it is used alone.
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The first usage of a healing or a miracle in acts are done in the name of Jesus Christ. He was exalted and given a name above every name after his resurrection as he was given the title of Christ. Many times in Aramaic he is referred to as "Jesus the Christ," which is fantastic because it's really a title more than a last name.
We should all be giving Christ his due respect by using the name of Jesus Christ, rather than just Jesus. After all it's the way the first century church did it during the time of Peter, Paul, John, etc.. there is no reason we should stop now.
God bless you in the wonderful name of Jesus Christ.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 7:29:55 PM
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MrFribbles
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We should all be giving Christ his due respect by using the name of Jesus Christ, rather than just Jesus.
But is there any Scripture that says we ought to address Christ in a certain way?
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 7:43:00 PM
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We should all be giving Christ his due respect by using the name of Jesus Christ, rather than just Jesus.
But is there any Scripture that says we ought to address Christ in a certain way?
It was the standard set by the men of God in the first century church. That is the way they did it. The name of Jesus alone after the Day of Pentecost carries a negative connotation. So why wouldn't you follow the men of God rather than the negative usages?
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 7:50:51 PM
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It was the standard set by the men of God in the first century church. That is the way they did it.
If we go merely by early church examples, we should be tearing down all our church buildings. Do you support this as well?
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:00:31 PM
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Interesting.
Change doesn't come easy, but I shall pray and ask the Lord if this is something I need to change. Thanks for bringing it up. Honoring the Lord Jesus for what He did is important. There are those who can use all the right words and sound religeous but if the fruit of my labour isn't reflective of my love for the Lord and in obediance to His commands, it's just words. As the prophet Isaiah said as quoted by Jesus, "these people worship me in vain for they honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me" Jesus said if you love Me, you will obey my teaching.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:09:16 PM
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I was curious so I did a search of "Jesus" in the books after Acts. I found most do generally use Christ or Lord with Jesus. However, the book of Hebrews, you rarely see anything but Jesus (no other name paired). Also the book of Revelation does not typically use Christ with Jesus.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:13:18 PM
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It was the standard set by the men of God in the first century church. That is the way they did it.
If we go merely by early church examples, we should be tearing down all our church buildings. Do you support this as well?
The word for "church" in the New Testament is the Greek world "ekklesia" which simply means a group of people. There are times when the word is used of mobs, etc. So really if you did that it wouldn't matter as long as people are gathered in unity for God and Jesus Christ.
Do I want churches to get torn down, nope, not at all. I personally go to a fellowship taught at a home, because that is where I get most fed... I think where you go isn't as important as where God wants you to be.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:15:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: my quivers full
Interesting.
Change doesn't come easy, but I shall pray and ask the Lord if this is something I need to change. Thanks for bringing it up. Honoring the Lord Jesus for what He did is important. There are those who can use all the right words and sound religeous but if the fruit of my labour isn't reflective of my love for the Lord and in obediance to His commands, it's just words. As the prophet Isaiah said as quoted by Jesus, "these people worship me in vain for they honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me" Jesus said if you love Me, you will obey my teaching.
I'd say you are on the right track with asking God for help. That's what I'd do! 
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:18:20 PM
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Do I want churches to get torn down, nope, not at all. I personally go to a fellowship taught at a home, because that is where I get most fed... I think where you go isn't as important as where God wants you to be.
Now, see, I find this interesting. All the men of God in the NT were either missionaries, so had no local church body to be a part of in a permanent sense, or they were members of a house church.
I am curious as to why you advocate using a certain name because of their example, but do not advocate other things they lived out.
Please don't misunderstand me - if you feel convicted about this, then please, call Jesus "Jesus Christ" only. But since there is no biblical command on the matter, I think it is improper to suggest that all Christians must do the same.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:19:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: TrustingGod
I was curious so I did a search of "Jesus" in the books after Acts. I found most do generally use Christ or Lord with Jesus. However, the book of Hebrews, you rarely see anything but Jesus (no other name paired). Also the book of Revelation does not typically use Christ with Jesus.
I'll have to study Hebrews a little closer, but I'm sure its there, it might just take a little more work and some help from God showing me too.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:27:49 PM
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Do I want churches to get torn down, nope, not at all. I personally go to a fellowship taught at a home, because that is where I get most fed... I think where you go isn't as important as where God wants you to be.
Now, see, I find this interesting. All the men of God in the NT were either missionaries, so had no local church body to be a part of in a permanent sense, or they were members of a house church.
I am curious as to why you advocate using a certain name because of their example, but do not advocate other things they lived out.
Please don't misunderstand me - if you feel convicted about this, then please, call Jesus "Jesus Christ" only. But since there is no biblical command on the matter, I think it is improper to suggest that all Christians must do the same.
Well, I'm only 22, and I'm still going to college. Once I get out I fully plan on going out and finding God's hungry people. Right now, however, it's not available for me. Jesus Christ didn't start his ministry till he was in his 30's. Our society treats people as kids or young adults until they are 21, and I'm really just starting out to live mine.
I don't go by the traditions and the set standards of what other people in Christianity do until I ask my Father and study the word concerning the subjects. I'm not out to disrupt the order of how things are run, but If I see conclusive evidence on how something is being done and the Bible suggests that we should do it other ways, I do it that other way. The Bible is God's word as written by men he inspired, so really it comes down to following God or men in that scenario.
I just choose to go to God and the Bible for everything before I act. I think in this case God has shown me this and my evidence is pretty conclusive. I don't want you to take what I write and instantly follow it because that's not what I do, and also I'm not God or even anyone special or intelligent. Instead, try everything by praying, seeking God, and reading the Bible. Then if you feel that it is something you should do then do it. If not, do what you have been doing.
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RE: Honoring Jesus Christ - 8/31/2008 8:29:36 PM
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I don't want you to take what I write and instantly follow it because that's not what I do, and also I'm not God or even anyone special or intelligent. Instead, try everything by praying, seeking God, and reading the Bible. Then if you feel that it is something you should do then do it. If not, do what you have been doing.
Well put.
I wish you well on your continued studies.
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You're a door without a key,
A field without a fence.
You've made a holy fool of me,
And I've thanked you ever since.
- Aaron Weiss
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