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ORIGINAL: SonicStudent

I fully agree here with Arley's account. Obama has a purpose, to de-stabilise the one nation that holds up the rest. Why? because once America suffers the biggest financial collapse ever seen, the nations will begin to fold. All nations are now in debt to the world bankers in the sums of billions each, all held up by the dollar, indebted to the Federal Reserve, who are a private bank. Once America crumbles, the bankers simply call in all debts to support America, which they know will cause other nations to collapse in turn. They've done this before when they caused the great depression etc.

This is the chaos that will allow them to arise with the One World Order rescue package, and this is Obama's job. (Heck I can see the strings from here!)

We've seen types of 'the' final and literal anti-Christ throughout history, carrying very similar personality traits that we know AC will have. I believe IMO, that there will be no mistaking him when he comes. To those who've resisted Jesus, he'll leave the masses speechless in admiration. To those who know their Lord, he'll seem fair, but feel foul! If we know our saviour, we'll see through his signs, wonders, words and spirit raising lies, and recognise the actual fruits.

Just my opinion.

mark

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There is a great mystery around MAN which will be the Universal HEAD of the Antichrist´s kingdom. Though his empire be Universal (it is the fifth Universal kingdom - the fourth was the Roman Empire), it will be partly strong and partly fragile. Here is wisdom.

The Antichrist´s empire in the prophecies of Daniel is figured as the last empire in the great image of Nebuchadnezar´s dream, and is symbolized as being part of iron and part of clay. Iron represents the strong part of his kingdom, and the clay its fragile part. Notice that the Antichrist´s kingdom is not figured by the head, or body, or legs, of the great image, but by the two feet and ten toes. Here is wisdom.

The two feet symbolizes that the Antichrist´s kingdom is a divided reign, divided in two parts, figured by two different materials, iron and clay, symbolizing that one part is strong and another brittle. Here is wisdom, for the iron represents strong powers of Gentile peoples (religious, political and economic powers), and is symbolized by iron because these generations are derived from the old Roman Empire from which did come out the powerful and universal Roman Catholic Church.

The clay represents the Jewish people. As is revealed in Isaiah 64:v.8: Yet, Lord, you are our father. We are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the product of your labor.

What will be the contribution of Judaism with the religious, political, and economic Antiochrist´s Empire though it come to be a brittle part? Notice that the ten toes in the feet of the great image they are mixed one another, iron and clay, but not adhering to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.

The power of Antichrist´s kingdom will be headed by the beast which is sat in Rome, precisely by the Pope, figured in Revelation as a beast coming out of the sea (Rev. 13:v.1). Sea=waters=peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages/tongues (Rev. 17:v.15). Satan has created a great structure with seven heads and ten horns, with ten crowns on HIS HORNS, but on EACH HEAD (seven heads) a BLASPHEMOUS NAME. Here is wisdom.

The ten horns (horns with crowns?) are the people represented by the clay in the ten toes of the great image of Nebuchadnezzar´s dream, and they symbolize the ten tribes of Israel which rebelled against the house of David after Solomon´s death and it until these days, I mean until our days (1Kings 12:v.16to20). The crowns on the ten horns (horns with crowns?) signify their nobility.

The BLASPHEMOUS NAME in each head (seven heads) is linked with a lineage of SEVEN POPES. What kind of blasphemous name do they have in their heads? The name of blasphemous is: VICARIVS FILLI DEI.

The angel of the LORD says (Revelation 17:v.6to17): Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the WOMAN (Church) and of the BEAST that she rides (The Pope), which has the seven HEADS and TEN HORNS (Iron mixed with clay). This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are the seven hills on which the WOMAN sits (seven hills of Rome placed in the Vatican city). But the seven HEADS have also another symbol. They are also SEVEN KINGS, five (OF THE SEVEN) have fallen (THEY ALREADY DID DIE), one is (here is wisdom because the fulfilment of this prophecy in Revelation starts/begins in the time in which ONE IS, and I must tell that this one referred by the angel also is already dead), THE OTHER HAS NOT YET COME (that is the seventh, this thing needs to fulfil still).

Rev. 17:v.12 The ten horns are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour (for a little time - 42 months) will receive authority AS KINGS along with the BEAST (the beast who rose up out of the sea - sea = Gentile peoples - this beast is the Pope). Then we will se iron mixed with clay, but without adhering one another, Gentile and Jews,
Catholicism and Judaism, two powerful religious system of the world.


Now see: Jesus did say to the Jews: " I am come in may Father´s name, and ye receive me not; If another (A FALSE MESSIAH, AN IMPOSTOR) will come in his own name, him ye will receive. (John 5:v.43). This prophecy of the LORD Jesus will fulfil now, in our days. The Jews are waiting their messiah , NOT JESUS, he must manifest himself sooner. Then there will be two BEASTS on the earth and with them both Satan will establish the Antichrist´s kingdom with two periods of 42 months each one or 1,260 days each one.

Now see: Our LORD Jesus was filled with all the fullness of GOD, for it pleased the Father that in JESUS should all fullness dwell (Eph.3:v.19 and Col. 1:v.19),

But the false messiah of the Jews, such impostor is filled with all the fullness of Satan, an ex-Cherub, in him must dwell all fullness of the Devil,
it is terrible to say but the appearance of false messiah, an impostor, filled with the fullness Satan it will be like the incarnation of the Devil in the end of the time.

As all we know, the Most High GOD cursed the Devil in Eden and he will be cursed for ever by the Word of GOD, for His Word is for everlasting time.

We are in the time of Apocalypse. The chapter 12 will fulfill literally, but the Most High God will fulfil all He has planned for this time and will establish His kingdom (Rev.17:v.15to19) and will destroy the world of Devil and its evil works (2Peter 3:v.7to10). Amen.

In Christ Jesus, KING of the kings and LORD of the lords
Oseas

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ORIGINAL: navyblueret
No one can offer more than an arms-length guestimation, since there is a paucity of Prophets hanging up shingles.

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ORIGINAL: tsnody2001

I was reading through some internet articles and was browsinga web site I frequently browse. I read this article, watched a YouTube video imbedded in the article. Although I don't know how trustworthy the info is, it at least sounds credible at the surface. The link to the article is HERE. Can anyone make a good argument for or against this?

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My theory is that The Great One is paving the way for the real Antichrist, Sarah Palin.

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ORIGINAL: bob97

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My theory is that The Great One is paving the way for the real Antichrist, Sarah Palin.

Yes it has been pretty apparent for quite a while now how you feel about her. If she is such a loser why worry about her?

Bob

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>>Don't the end times seem to be looming over us? <<


Yes, the end times implies the end of the world of Devil, whose ambient
is full of spirits of demons working for Satan and for his global kingdom.
The Devil taking JESUS up into a high mountain showed unto our Lord ALL THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD, AND THE GLORY OF THEM ALL, and said to the LORD: "All this POWER will i give thee, and the GLORY of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever i will i give it". (Luke 4:v.6)

But now, even now, in this exact newborn millennium, the seventh after Adam, the Enemy, the old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, he will be cast into the bottomless pit, into the abyss. (Do you know why this? It is because he should deceive THE NATIONS NO MORE, until the end of this millennium, did you understand?

And more: To cast down the Devil into the abyss is an invisible process, it is a war between the everlasting Spirit of the Most High GOD, the Omnipotent GOD, and the spirit of Devil with his global power and glory.

This is the message of the angel of the LORD: (Revelation 11:v.15) The KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our LORD, and of His Christ, and He will reign for ever and ever. Halleluuuujaaaah!

What will be the effects of this battle against the Devil in whole earth, and the destruction of his satanic world?

(Revelation 11:v.18) And THE NATIONS were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and to them that fear thy name, small and great, and SHOULDEST DESTROY THEM WHICH DESTROY THE EARTH.

Remember that DEATH is the last ENEMY that will be destroyed, first Satan must be cast down into the abyss, into the bottomless pit.


>>Obama is a set up guy for the anti christ, it would appear. <<


The dragon, the old serpent, which is the Devil and Satan, will work with
all powerful men (Obama is one of them), political and economic powers, and with the appearance of the false messiah, an impostor, as prophesied our LORD Jesus (John 5:v.43), then Satan will work with religious powers too; The satanic religious powers of the Antichrist´s Empire have seven heads, ten horns and a tail, a mix of Catholicism, Judaism (the false messiah will rise up out among the Jews), and false Christians/ believers, false Pastors, false Ministers and Ministries of died Churches and evil sects, symbolized by the TAIL in the book of Revelation 12:v. 4. Those three kinds of powers symbolize a Satanic Trinity.

For better understanding of these revelations I quote Revelation 16:v.13
to16:
13 Then I saw three unclean spirits that looked like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of the demons performing signs who go out to the kings of the earth to bring them together for the battle that will take place on the great day of God, the All-Powerful 15 (Look! I will come like a thief! Blessed is the one who stays alert and does not lose his clothes so that he will not have to walk around naked and his shameful condition be seen.)
16 Now the spirits gathered the kings and their armies to the place that is called Armageddon in Hebrew.

In Christ Jesus, KING of the kings and LORD of the lords
Oseas

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I simply believe, based on my reading of the Bible, particularly Daniel 11, that he is not the Antichrist, although, as has been noted, he may be one of the many Antichrists of which John spoke. I just got to feel like when the real deal appears, he will have things under control better than Obama!

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This you're saying I feel is more likely. Obama may well be charismatic, a great talker and that fits the bill in lots of ways, but not nearly charismatic or popular enough to be AC, but as you say, the changes he's making, the global agenda's he's promoting and following, the multi-faith and other faiths he's embraced and encouraging, the Liberal forms of Christian belief he's part of, the desire for more government control and less civil freedom, and the fruit of his heart that feels nothing for the unborn, all goes to show me that he could well be one of the 10.

However, i'm personally more convinced that he's simply a servant, disciple or puppet of the 10. Those behind the powers that move the right people into various positions. Either way, there seems to be the right people, whether in governments, Global organisations such as the UN, WHO etc or environmental global groups, who are in the right place, all saying the same things, pushing their global agenda, all over the world, and at the moment, Obama sounds the loudest.